No-deal Brxeit warning for UK drivers

[Amarillo]

This is the second page of my insurance certificate. What more could be required?

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That is only “compulsory insurance”, usually third party injury cover. Most policies also give the same cover that you have in the UK extended to most European countries for a limited period.


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[Loz]

I like the overall optimism that you will actually be able to get to the EU after the 29th

 

[Borris]

I admire your optimism.
If, come the day there isn’t a 1 in front of that £25 then I’ll show my arse in Asda.

Why not try Waitrose instead? You could get a free coffee first.

 

[Auberg-ine]

I like the overall optimism that you will actually be able to get to the EU after the 29th

(Hey, guys, you can always dig a tunnel. Shhh)

 

[Velma's Dad]

(Hey, guys, you can always dig a tunnel. Shhh)

That's enough cheek from you. If you're not careful we'll send Theresa over to Brussels again to tell you what we really really want, what we really really really want. (God I wish it was 1996 again).

 

[Auberg-ine]

That's enough cheek from you. If you're not careful we'll send Theresa over to Brussels again to tell you what we really really want, what we really really really want. (God I wish it was 1996 again).

You should! In fact she never seemed to be able to properly explain what you really want there exactly. Something like Bxtei or Br**it, Brxeit,...?? Then she starts mumbling about Boris his bike?? We tried to explain her chocolate is a good treatment...



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[Amarillo]

You should! In fact she never seemed to be able to properly explain what you really want there exactly. Something like Bxtei or Br**it, Brxeit,...?? Then she starts mumbling about Boris his bike?? We tried to explain her chocolate is a good treatment...

Here is my analogy:

A disparate group decide to have a meal together and vote: Meat or Veg. Unexpectedly, Meat wins. Meat voters then start arguing over whether meat means beef, pork, chicken or fish; to solve this conundrum they select a non-vegetarian Veg voter to decide for them and, to everyone's surprise, lamb is selected. There are meat voters who say Meat means beef and won't accept lamb, saying even Veg would be better than lamb. There are Veg voters who would accept fish or chicken as a compromise, but beef, pork or lamb are out of the question. Then there are Veg voters for whom only veg will do. To further complicate matters, Meat voters, expecting beef, cannot agree rare, medium or well done; Meat voters, expecting pork cannot agree on roast pork, ham or bacon; and so on. The largest cohesive group, but still a minority, are vegetarians for whom only Veg will do. They say, "let's re-run the original vote". Meat voters reply, "that would be undemocratic", so the Veg voters ask, "What do you want?" The Meat voters start arguing all over again about what Meat means, continuously heckled by the Veg voters. The Veg leader, who reluctantly voted Veg because what he wanted was Vegan, is refusing to speak to the Meat leader (who was a Veg voter) unless she rules out beef. Meanwhile, a rather large group of Veg voters bizarrely think they can sit separately gorging on caviar because it is not meat but the product of a somewhat slippery fish.

It is a meaty mess.

 

[Velma's Dad]

Here is my analogy:

A disparate group decide to have a meal together and vote: Meat or Veg. Unexpectedly, Meat wins. Meat voters then start arguing over whether meat means beef, pork, lamb, chicken or fish, so they select a non-vegetarian Veg voter to decide for them and lamb is selected. There are meat voters who say Meat means beef and won't accept lamb, saying Veg would be better than lamb. There are Veg voters who would accept fish or chicken as a compromise, but beef, pork or lamb are out of the question. Then there are Veg voters for whom only veg will do. To further complicate matters, Meat voters, expecting beef, cannot agree rare, medium or well done; Meat voters, expecting pork cannot agree on roasted, ham or bacon; and so on. The largest cohesive group, but still a minority, are vegetarians for whom only Veg will do. They say, "let's re-run the original vote". Meat voters say, "but that would be undemocratic", to which the Veg voters ask, "What do you want?" The Meat voters start arguing all over again about what Meat means, continuously heckled by the Veg voters, their leader, who reluctantly voted Veg because what he wanted was Vegan, refusing to speak to Meat eaters unless they rule out beef.

It is a meaty mess.

Lovely. And just to add: the restaurant manager says they all owe 39 quid for the group booking deposit whatever happens, but some of the group say they won't pay that because its bloody daylight robbery and the restaurateur (with whom they would really still like to agree how the lamb, or beef, will be cooked, if that's what they end up having) is a complete crook and they'd rather spend the 39 quid on a couple of cases of beer from the pub round the corner.

Bon appetite.

 

[Loz]

And further to that;
The restaurant is struggling for business and the argument is putting off other customers from coming in and some other diners are muttering that they are thinking about leaving the restaurant but the owner says they paid up front for their next 10 years meals and therefore cannot leave.

 

[Jabberwocky]

That is only “compulsory insurance”, usually third party injury cover. Most policies also give the same cover that you have in the UK extended to most European countries for a limited period.


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Hi Tom
My insurance is comprehensive across Europe but it is only the compulsory part in the countries I visit that is of interest to anyone who needs to see. The authorities care not if I have comprehensive or not, only that the insurance covers their minimum requirements hence the page two.

 

[Amarillo]

Hi Tom
My insurance is comprehensive across Europe but it is only the compulsory part in the countries I visit that is of interest to anyone who needs to see. The authorities care not if I have comprehensive or not, only that the insurance covers their minimum requirements hence the page two.

I thought that may be the case. I expect insurance companies will honour their EU commitments until we leave the EU and continue with that until the policy end.


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[Jabberwocky]

I thought that may be the case. I expect insurance companies will honour their EU commitments until we leave the EU and continue with that until the policy end.


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Hopefully this is the case. I have to renew my insurance in February which will include overseas travel (Acid test for me will be a visit to Germany in May) - I guess I will find out more then!!

 

[Ting Tong]

Here's Safeguard's reply to my email yesterday (basically their policy continues to cover the EU whatever but you will need a free Green Card if no deal):

Good Afternoon

I can confirm that our policies here at Safeguard do provide comprehensive insurance cover throughout our territorial limits: Great Britain, Northern Ireland, The Channel Islands, The Isle of Man, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Romania, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the Vatican City.

This is not due to change regardless of whether or not a deal is arranged as part of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union.

Should there be no deal arranged, and a green card is required for local authorities we can issue this for you within 30 days of the start of the trip you would require this for. We would need to discuss this with you over the phone to go through full data protection and request the relevant documentation from your insurer.

Currently there is no cost involved with issuing a Green Card in these circumstances.

Kind Regards ​

 

[WelshGas]

Here's Safeguard's reply to my email yesterday (basically their policy continues to cover the EU whatever but you will need a free Green Card if no deal):

Good Afternoon

I can confirm that our policies here at Safeguard do provide comprehensive insurance cover throughout our territorial limits: Great Britain, Northern Ireland, The Channel Islands, The Isle of Man, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Romania, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the Vatican City.

This is not due to change regardless of whether or not a deal is arranged as part of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union.

Should there be no deal arranged, and a green card is required for local authorities we can issue this for you within 30 days of the start of the trip you would require this for. We would need to discuss this with you over the phone to go through full data protection and request the relevant documentation from your insurer.

Currently there is no cost involved with issuing a Green Card in these circumstances.

Kind Regards ​

As it should be.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Here's Safeguard's reply to my email yesterday (basically their policy continues to cover the EU whatever but you will need a free Green Card if no deal):

Good Afternoon

I can confirm that our policies here at Safeguard do provide comprehensive insurance cover throughout our territorial limits: Great Britain, Northern Ireland, The Channel Islands, The Isle of Man, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Romania, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the Vatican City.

This is not due to change regardless of whether or not a deal is arranged as part of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union.

Should there be no deal arranged, and a green card is required for local authorities we can issue this for you within 30 days of the start of the trip you would require this for. We would need to discuss this with you over the phone to go through full data protection and request the relevant documentation from your insurer.

Currently there is no cost involved with issuing a Green Card in these circumstances.

Kind Regards ​

Nice and clear. Excellent and as @WelshGas says "as it should be". Thanks.

 

[Barbara]

Talked to LV on Thursday Green card arrived today. Info on their web site and link when phone them.

 

[Kirk]

Here's Safeguard's reply to my email yesterday (basically their policy continues to cover the EU whatever but you will need a free Green Card if no deal):

Good Afternoon

I can confirm that our policies here at Safeguard do provide comprehensive insurance cover throughout our territorial limits: Great Britain, Northern Ireland, The Channel Islands, The Isle of Man, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Romania, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the Vatican City.

This is not due to change regardless of whether or not a deal is arranged as part of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union.

Should there be no deal arranged, and a green card is required for local authorities we can issue this for you within 30 days of the start of the trip you would require this for. We would need to discuss this with you over the phone to go through full data protection and request the relevant documentation from your insurer.

Currently there is no cost involved with issuing a Green Card in these circumstances.

Kind Regards ​

I like how they say ''currently' no charge !

 

[Trev]

I meant "Not sure British citizens will be able to be in the EU to be able to drive there anyway without a visa". ...and presumably an International Driving Permit will be needed too.

Just back from the Post Office having asked about international driving permit. Wanted to get ahead if things if possible ... Apparently there is a new version due out from 1 Feb. Any IDP you buy now will only be valid until 31 Jan 2019.

 

[clattergate]

What about Estas and driving licences (international driving permit?) ... I’ve got tickets to the factory tour and presumably we won’t know if it’s no deal till last minute but need to apply for things a month or so before.

 

[Trev]

What about Estas and driving licences (international driving permit?) ... I’ve got tickets to the factory tour and presumably we won’t know if it’s no deal till last minute but need to apply for things a month or so before.

Post Office said that ‘new’ IDP can be applied for in February and like the current version is issued in the spot.

 

[Barbara]

There 3 types of IDP depending on country. What the government says:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/international-driving-permits-for-uk-drivers-from-28-march-2019

Good information about all 3 types and when you can get them. Spain and France need different ones.

Quote: "In some circumstances you may need more than one IDP. For example, when driving through France (1968 IDP) to Spain (1949 IDP)."

I have my 1949 one and and waiting till February to get 1968 which is not issued yet something to do with ratification.

 

[Ting Tong]

What about Estas and driving licences (international driving permit?) ... I’ve got tickets to the factory tour and presumably we won’t know if it’s no deal till last minute but need to apply for things a month or so before.

We are the factory visit too on Berxit weekend: I’m going to get a green card and an international driving permit. I have checked my safeguard insurance covers us fully comp whatever but check yours. Not sure what to do atm about esta / visa: I’m hoping it will become clearer once we know whether it’s deal or no deal.

 

[Ting Tong]

As it should be.

Yes as it should be but don’t assume anything until you’ve checked, as I did with Safeguard. Insurance companies may not provide the same cover as the risk is different and there are lots of rights which you’d think should be continued but won’t be.

 

[WelshGas]

Yes as it should be but don’t assume anything until you’ve checked, as I did with Safeguard. Insurance companies may not provide the same cover as the risk is different and there are lots of rights which you’d think should be continued but won’t be.

Even Safeguard have said “ not due to change “ rather than a definitive “ will not change “, so check before leaving.

 

[Kris Emery]

On the Green Cared - I remember it being only valid for 30 days. I needed cover for six months and it was a Dickens of a fight to get them to issue follow on green cards. Their processes did not provide fo

Note that a green card is issued against a specific vehicle so if your policy covers multiple vehicles make sure the green card covers the one you are going abroad with. I have two vehicles covered by one number plate (I can move the plates from one to the other) but I need two green cards one for each vehicle (in the policy I only pay the premium for the most expensive of the two).

My Swiss insurers issue a multi year green card as standard with the insurance.

Now as holder of a Swiss driving license I wonder if I will need some sort of "IDP" to visit UK?