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eh? eh? What did I say? I cant remember it...it must be the sun and the vino here in Portugal :cool: I cant see anything personally attacking another member above, so I agree a ban would be draconian, but ill live with it.View attachment 59617View attachment 59617ust be

Very nice. Lovely in fact .... only ever so mildly envious .....
 
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I think that i heard on the news today that the UK will
introduce a 2 week quarantine period for people arriving there.

They then went on to say that it will come into force next month.

I was confused, why - if they think that is the way to go - don't they do it
straight away, why wait ?
 
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I cant see anything personally attacking another member above
Allegedly you called ~33,300,000 people tw@ts. I think that the allegation was overstated by ~15,900,000 people. The suggested 30 day ban would have been for personally insulting any member among those 17,410,742 people who voted remain in the EU referendum. However, as the ballot was secret, I'm unsure how anyone implementing a ban could identify which members, if any, had been insulted.
 
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I think that i heard on the news today that the UK will
introduce a 2 week quarantine period for people arriving there.

They then went on to say that it will come into force next month.

I was confused, why - if they think that is the way to go - don't they do it
straight away, why wait ?
Basically because the Airlines don't intend to start passenger flights until mid-June or later.

Easyjet June15, Ryanair 40% in July, BA in July.
 
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I think that i heard on the news today that the UK will
introduce a 2 week quarantine period for people arriving there.

They then went on to say that it will come into force next month.

I was confused, why - if they think that is the way to go - don't they do it
straight away, why wait ?
It is also a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. However, I can understand a 14 day quarantine for anyone who has visited certain countries where coronavirus is raging, such as Brazil, within the past 14 days.
 
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Basically because the Airlines don't intend to start passenger flights until mid-June or later.

Easyjet June15, Ryanair 40% in July, BA in July.
But i thought it was for all incoming people, they said ports and airports.
 
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It is also a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. However, I can understand a 14 day quarantine for anyone who has visited certain countries where coronavirus is raging, such as Brazil, within the past 14 days.
Eggs actly :).
If i travelled there now it would be okay but next month it won't ?
 
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But i thought it was for all incoming people, they said ports and airports.
Ferries are taking commercial traffic and returning to home citizens In small numbers.
Likewise airports. Mainly commercial , returning home passengers and very few others.
The risk from the small number of passengers are minimal at present, but when the airlines start flying and passenger numbers increase then the risk increases and that’s when quarantine is effective.
Also, quarantining of passengers from certain countries/areas has been ongoing since first introduced for passengers from Wuhan so I’m led to believe.
 
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Eggs actly :).
If i travelled there now it would be okay but next month it won't ?
If you could travel.

But then, there are some on the Forum who know so much more than I do so I’ll leave it to them to pontificate.
 
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The risk from the small number of passengers are minimal at present, but when the airlines start flying and passenger numbers increase then the risk increases and that’s when quarantine is effective.
Thats why then. :thumb
 
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The risk from the small number of passengers are minimal at present, but when the airlines start flying and passenger numbers increase then the risk increases and that’s when quarantine is effective.
Much will depend on whether the country people are flying in from has higher infection rates than the UK. If the other country has lower rates, we could suppose that we'd be exporting more cases than importing. Of course, that assumes zero people infected on the plane, and if O'Leary is typical of airline management, airlines will do little to mitigate that possibility.
 
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Ok, I am a humble man, and accept my faults. If they would like to step forward and tell me that their feelings were hurt by my comments, and I left them sore and upset, I will personally apologise to them. Can't ask more than that?
 
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Thats why then. :thumb
Who is going to fly to the UK to do business if they face a 2 week quarantine first? Who is going to leave the UK to do business if they face a 2 week quarantine on their return, who is going to go on vacation abroad if they face a 2 week quarantine on their return, who is going to fly to the UK for a vacation if they have to face a 2 week quarantine on arrival.

Priti Patel has just destroyed our airlines, businesses, investors and people in one move.

This is worth it if this virus is at risk of going rampant and killing huge numbers of healthy people. But let's be certain that that is the case - the stats don't entirely support that.
 
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Basically because the Airlines don't intend to start passenger flights until mid-June or later.

Easyjet June15, Ryanair 40% in July, BA in July.
Except that's not actually true. For example BA and Wizz air have been flying to my local airport, Lisbon, for a while.
 
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Where I am we have virtually no corona. In the UK you have loads. We are not quarantining Brits coming here (we should be) why is the UK quarantining Portuguese who have an R close to 0.

This is politics.
 
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Basically because the Airlines don't intend to start passenger flights until mid-June or later.

Easyjet June15, Ryanair 40% in July, BA in July.
Ferry? Eurotunnel? Flights still arriving Today? More nonsense.
Check out Vienna Airport, arrive, test then go if clear.
 
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Ferries are taking commercial traffic and returning to home citizens In small numbers.
Likewise airports. Mainly commercial , returning home passengers and very few others.
The risk from the small number of passengers are minimal at present, but when the airlines start flying and passenger numbers increase then the risk increases and that’s when quarantine is effective.
Also, quarantining of passengers from certain countries/areas has been ongoing since first introduced for passengers from Wuhan so I’m led to believe.
currently no checks on any arrivals from anywhere, its a nonsense and we know it, the illusion of action after inaction. No Checks from ROI, truck drivers, fruit pickers!
 
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Intriguingly more folks seem to be upset about my suggestion of scones with peanut butter and Marmite than me calling anyone a something rude for being a b___tw___t. interesting little storm in a teacup.

Would it be more acceptable if it were Crunchy?
 
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I live in north east Scotland (as do other members). Many neighbours travel overseas on/off for work on a regular basis in the oil & gas industry.
One was delayed coming home from west Africa for 3 weeks during lockdown - no advice at that stage to quarantine - but his wife (both adult kids recently moved out to live with partners) suggested he self isolated at home... hard work for two of them...
I have another neighbour whose hubby works in Egypt. His back to back was stuck there for 10 weeks (7 weeks longer than normal) whilst flights were sorted. Very lonely times for the family of his back to back... Now he’s out there. So when he comes home, do the whole house isolate? Or just him? They have children who (from my own experience) simply do not understand “please keep away” at the age of 6 and 9... for younger children it would be even harder... And the mother is deemed a critical worker so could be in work (although chosen to work from home at the moment)...
Again, another neighbour‘s husband is away 4/4 weeks in Kazakstan... family here are vulnerable adults.
I have not yet seen how quarantine affects oil industry workers.
This is quite complicated and no one solution fits all.
 
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Except that's not actually true. For example BA and Wizz air have been flying to my local airport, Lisbon, for a while.
And who has been taking those flights back to the UK? Tourists? or UK residents returning to UK?
 
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