Should I Order a 4 Motion Tomorrow?

[JuanVecino2023]

Let the gods decide! Like for yes.

 

[Stargazing]

 

[Jimmylondon07]

What's the delta between what you'll now get for your swamper Fauxcean and the real McCoy?

And do you actually go anywhere that even remotely requires 4Motion?

Those are the two questions I'd be asking myself.

 

[Corradobrit]

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[lohr500]

If you can afford one and it ticks all the boxes for you, then do it.
If you don't, you will never get another chance to build one to your specification.

 

[OxonCalifornia]

Do it ! The last 10 Cali's off the line get a can of Aquatex thrown in !

 

[Flower Power]

If you can still get a 4MO then do it.... its market value is much greater than price of the option itself. No brainer in Germany/Austria.

 

[Camperfamily]

Why not?

 

[JuanVecino2023]

What's the delta between what you'll now get for your swamper Fauxcean and the real McCoy?

And do you actually go anywhere that even remotely requires 4Motion?

Those are the two questions I'd be asking myself.

No faux. Ocean is still stock.

Bummer is no 0% finance. 6.9% with £1.5k contribution best they’ll do.

Definitely will use the 4WD. Shouldn’t have been cheap out of the gate.

 

[CamperFam]

No faux. Ocean is still stock.

Bummer is no 0% finance. 6.9% with £1.5k contribution best they’ll do.

Definitely will use the 4WD. Shouldn’t have been cheap out of the gate.

Personally, as much as I like the appeal of a 4motion, we've rarely found a time when we'd use it. Twice we've been 'stuck in the mud' - the only time that was actually a problem perse was a pub overflow where they were just careless in their choice of 'spaces'.

If it wasn't end of Cali production and the books closing tomorrow, would you chop the van in today for a 4motion? If no, then my arguement would be that it's the wrong decision.

But that's based off my own perception (and knowing how I work under FOMO). Everyone is different.

 

[JuanVecino2023]

Personally, as much as I like the appeal of a 4motion, we've rarely found a time when we'd use it. Twice we've been 'stuck in the mud' - the only time that was actually a problem perse was a pub overflow where they were just careless in their choice of 'spaces'.

If it wasn't end of Cali production and the books closing tomorrow, would you chop the van in today for a 4motion? If no, then my arguement would be that it's the wrong decision.

But that's based off my own perception (and knowing how I work under FOMO). Everyone is different.

I would chop today.

I like to seek out the mud and off beaten track. A bit tricky in the UK.

I didn’t think I would want to do it in a camper. But I realise I do. We’ll see if Breeze came through!

 

[andyinluton]

The 4motion makes a huge difference to the speed of pulling away especially in the wet, wheel spin is virtually eliminated.

 

[WelshGas]

There is so much more to the 4Motion drive system than off-road or wet campsite ability. It is a very different driving experience all round.

 

[Jimmylondon07]

Personally, as much as I like the appeal of a 4motion, we've rarely found a time when we'd use it. Twice we've been 'stuck in the mud' - the only time that was actually a problem perse was a pub overflow where they were just careless in their choice of 'spaces'.

If it wasn't end of Cali production and the books closing tomorrow, would you chop the van in today for a 4motion? If no, then my arguement would be that it's the wrong decision.

But that's based off my own perception (and knowing how I work under FOMO). Everyone is different.

I don’t think it’s quite that binary as he may have ended up chopping it in a month’s time and that option will no longer be available. Am in a similar position with a GC and Breeze have offered to refund my deposit in full if I wish to cancel my order prior to the van being built, and even once it’s built they’ll refund it in full once they’ve sold the vehicle to someone else if I don’t want it. That takes the immediate emotional pressure out of the decision for me.

Am not suggesting you muck them around - you definitely shouldn’t - but there will be a little bit of breathing space once the pressure of the order book closing has gone away. Conversely, if you don’t order one you may end up looking at used 4Motions this time next month, which you’ll probably end up paying more for. Personally I’d rather have the option on the table but appreciate everyone is different.

 

[Jimmylondon07]

@JuanVecino2023 this feels a little bit like Transfer Deadline Day in football, what's the latest?

 

[JuanVecino2023]

@JuanVecino2023 this feels a little bit like Transfer Deadline Day in football, what's the latest?

Well, I emailed the order at the eleventh hour. Let’s see what VW have to say.

 

[larrylamb]

@JuanVecino2023 this feels a little bit like Transfer Deadline Day in football, what's the latest?

waiting for the fax machine to kick into life at nearly midnight

 

[OxonCalifornia]

Well, I emailed the order at the eleventh hour. Let’s see what VW have to say.

You could end up with the very last Cali off the production line ?

 

[Carryon Cali Camping]

waiting for the fax machine to kick into life at nearly midnight

We expect the decision to be announced by Harry Redknapp when he leaves Breeze at around midnight in his Range Rover and announces that the deal has been done for the 4motion!!!

 

[WelshGas]

Be even better when they release a twin motor E-Cali. Subject to a decent range.

I think I'll be 6ft under by then.

 

[pjm-84]

Never been stuck....even on a very wet campsite, that quite a few got stuck on, even a 4 motion...... to be fair the campsite owner told the chap not to go on there and he said its alright I have a 4 motion and then got stuck.....lol. That said I cheated and reversed out from my pitch.

Not a great fan of the Haldex system. The only time it kicked in on my Volvo XC70 it was dumb beyond belief.....no traction / activate AWD / traction / deactivate AWD / no traction.......3miles on a snowy road going arghhh, yes, arghhh, yes, yikes, yes, whoops, yes, nooo, yes, arghhh

 

[pjm-84]

and I was on all season tyres....so slippy.

 

[Jimmylondon07]

We expect the decision to be announced by Harry Redknapp when he leaves Breeze at around midnight in his Range Rover and announces that the deal has been done for the 4motion!!!

"t'riffic little camper, Merse had one when he was with me at Portsmuff"

 

[Jimmylondon07]

@JuanVecino2023 what’s the news?

 

[andyinluton]

Not a great fan of the Haldex system. The only time it kicked in on my Volvo XC70 it was dumb beyond belief.....no traction / activate AWD / traction / deactivate AWD / no traction.......3miles on a snowy road going arghhh, yes, arghhh, yes, yikes, yes, whoops, yes, nooo, yes, arghhh

The cali system is far better than the Volvo one.
I had V70 cross country xc70 & it was exactly as you describe, seemed to change from a front wheel drive understeering with a bit of wheelspin to a rear wheel drive oversteering tail happy thing with zero notice. I can assure you the Cali is nothing like that.