T7 Spyshots.

I don't know why so many are pessimistic about the new California. If the perceived lack of headroom and storage etc: outway the fact that it is a VW California with full one stop warranty etc then think of the endless threads and conversations you will have in the future comparing the +s and -s of the multitude of 3rd party conversions based on the Ford/VW collaboration commercial van that awaits you in the future and warranty problems dealing with Ford/VW and the 3rd party converters.
 
WelshGas said:
I don't know why so many are pessimistic about the new California. If the perceived lack of headroom and storage etc: outway the fact that it is a VW California with full one stop warranty etc then think of the endless threads and conversations you will have in the future comparing the +s and -s of the multitude of 3rd party conversions based on the Ford/VW collaboration commercial van that awaits you in the future and warranty problems dealing with Ford/VW and the 3rd party converters.
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Its a minefield. Lets just say a VW Cali has become a little less perfect unless your overriding desire is for a PHEV.
 
Corradobrit said:
Its a minefield. Lets just say a VW Cali has become a little less perfect unless your overriding desire is for a PHEV.
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In some ways it's a little more perfect. The fact that the front left seat is more useful since no longer blocked by the kitchen unit. There are two sliding doors! The back bench is replaced by individual seats that can be individually adjusted and more easily removed without breaking your back, in case you need more cargo space. I imagine a 5th seat could also be a more attractive option when it could be easily removed for camping.
 
WelshGas said:
I don't know why so many are pessimistic about the new California. If the perceived lack of headroom and storage etc: outway the fact that it is a VW California with full one stop warranty etc then think of the endless threads and conversations you will have in the future comparing the +s and -s of the multitude of 3rd party conversions based on the Ford/VW collaboration commercial van that awaits you in the future and warranty problems dealing with Ford/VW and the 3rd party converters.
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The weak point of the Cali has been it's roof….corrosion, faulty electrics, pinched canvas, leaking etc. Hopefully VW will get this right on the new model otherwise they have learnt nothing. Dealerships will be able free up time slots in the workshops.

VW warranty / Recall action is not great, the lead time to get issues resolved (if at all) is far too long.
 
pluc99 said:
In some ways it's a little more perfect. The fact that the front left seat is more useful since no longer blocked by the kitchen unit. There are two sliding doors! The back bench is replaced by individual seats that can be individually adjusted and more easily removed without breaking your back, in case you need more cargo space. I imagine a 5th seat could also be a more attractive option when it could be easily removed for camping.
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I'm sure the realworld reviews will be hitting us thick and fast once its released and in the field so to speak. Only then will we really know. I would counter many of those 'advantages' as disadvantages due to the compromise eg more uncomfortable and narrower rear seating. Higher bed downstairs, lack of a convenient table, less storage space, single gas burner, rear trunk floor is not flat like on the T6.1, preferring to keep the drivers seat (LHD) in fast getaway position when not on a campsite. Ultimately it all depends how you use the Campervan.
 
Ch1pbutty said:
The weak point of the Cali has been it's roof….corrosion, faulty electrics, pinched canvas, leaking etc. Hopefully VW will get this right on the new model otherwise they have learnt nothing. Dealerships will be able free up time slots in the workshops.

VW warranty / Recall action is not great, the lead time to get issues resolved (if at all) is far too long.
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And Westfalia are better?
Marco Polo owners would disagree I'm sure.
 
I like the new cali I just think it’s another choice to the range.
You will see a direct replacement t6.1 cali in the future (me thinks). VW money making machine won’t stop.
 
WelshGas said:
And Westfalia are better?
Marco Polo owners would disagree I'm sure.
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Probably, but wouldn't buy a Marco polo as we have always owned VW’s T2, T25, T4, T5.1..and just got another T5.1.

Just pointing out that the Cali roof looks nice, but has far too many issues for and we only had the manual version! I put a dent in ours just by opening the boot with bikes on the factory fit rack (a GRP roof would have survived unscathed!).
 
I don’t think I could get on with a van with smaller internal space and headroom with the T6 Cali. If the new Cali comes out as a step between a T6 and a Caddy, I think that could steer people away from the Cali towards either the Grand Cali or the Fiat / Crafter based campervans.
 
Hawthorn37 said:
I don’t think I could get on with a van with smaller internal space and headroom with the T6 Cali. If the new Cali comes out as a step between a T6 and a Caddy, I think that could steer people away from the Cali towards either the Grand Cali or the Fiat / Crafter based campervans.
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It’ll be a compelling day van and daily driver which is probably a far bigger market than either the Caddy or Crafter variants?


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Site Foreman will have his CS card off him if he speeds away wheel spinning like that on site ;)

VW marketing need to have a word with themselves. Did a 12 year old design the flyer ?
 
You got 3 TDI choices: 110, 150, 170ps
Hybrid gasoline: 232ps combined output
BEV: 136, 218, 286ps with 64kw/h battery.

AWD is optional on mid and top range TDI. Hybrid is FWD only. BEV are RWD for only for now with AWD planned in future. Also lower capacity HBV will be offered in the future.

8spd auto available as option only on mid level and standard on top power TDI. Auto is mandatory with hybrid.

In a nutshell T6.1 values are about to explode. Anyone who is in the automotive business knows Ford can't build an engine to save their lives. Their new 2L TDCI has made the old 2.2 PSA-derived engine look awesome - and that engine suffers from many issues.



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Yes, it's a rebadged Transit but I think the Transit is actually a decent looking thing.

The cupholders look like an improvement over the T6.1.
 
I checked out the latest Nugget few months ago at a camper show and I liked the van, it was quite nice and I would pick it over the new T7 California Ocean abomination.

However, as someone who works in the automotive industry I wouldn't buy any Ford van as they fall apart mechanically.

Only van worthwhile looking at is the new V-class at this point.

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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Yes, it's a rebadged Transit but I think the Transit is actually a decent looking thing.

The cupholders look like an improvement over the T6.1.
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If only looks were the sole consideration. It seems that the seating position is more forward (vanlike) so thats a big plus. I can't see why they couldn't have eliminated the dash wart like the Sharavan though. I suppose typical cost saving for vans with manual or auto transmissions.
 
Corradobrit said:
If only looks were the sole consideration. It seems that the seating position is more forward (vanlike) so thats a big plus. I can't see why they couldn't have eliminated the dash wart like the Sharavan though. I suppose typical cost saving for vans with manual or auto transmissions.
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I’ve always fancied doing a conversion at some point and this would be the perfect base van. A better ride and drive than the T6 and a few crucial extra centimetres of internal space opens up different layout options. I’ve a fair few years left in my T6 yet so I shall be monitoring how mechanically reliable the T7 with Ford running gear proves to be. Plus by then the accessory aftermarket with have caught up too. Transporter HQ are already working on the Ford version.


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???? Does the T7 have the Ford engine? If so agree with the above.
 
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