Up to £70 fine

[Elly Swanson]

Pembrokeshire crackdown on 'wild camping' in car parks

Penalty notices of up to £70 are issued to people staying in car parks overnight.

www.bbc.co.uk

Pembokeshire are saying they'll fine wild campers up to £70 for illegal "wild camping". Surely not much of a deterrent when even the full fine is just a couple of nights fees for some campsites these days.

What do you guys think?

 

[WelshGas]

Pembrokeshire crackdown on 'wild camping' in car parks

Penalty notices of up to £70 are issued to people staying in car parks overnight.

www.bbc.co.uk

Pembokeshire are saying they'll fine wild campers up to £70 for illegal "wild camping". Surely not much of a deterrent when even the full fine is just a couple of nights fees for some campsites these days.

What do you guys think?

per Person?

 

[Bellcrew]

per Person?

Most car parks in touristy areas are already signed "camping forbidden", how they spot and fine wild campers on minor roads/quiet lanes is another matter, of course these threatened fines would never apply to our Travelling chums.

 

[Vagophile]

Quote "Car parks aren't set up for overnight camping - they're set up to be car parks"
A change of mindset could solve the problem at a stroke. Set the car parks up for overnight camping; a tap and a waste emptying point and a reasonable charge for an overnight stay, say 7 p.m to 8 a.m.

 

[Elly Swanson]

Quote "Car parks aren't set up for overnight camping - they're set up to be car parks"
A change of mindset could solve the problem at a stroke. Set the car parks up for overnight camping; a tap and a waste emptying point and a reasonable charge for an overnight stay, say 7 p.m to 8 a.m.

Loos too and call them Airres. Now that's a good idea.

 

[Elly Swanson]

Most car parks in touristy areas are already signed "camping forbidden", how they spot and fine wild campers on minor roads/quiet lanes is another matter, of course these threatened fines would never apply to our Travelling chums.

Whether a car park or any other location, I should have asked, "Is up to £70 enough of a detterent?"

 

[Elly Swanson]

per Person?

Don't know, but that's an interesting question, WG.

 

[soulstyledevon]

Just park in a quiet residential street. That’s what I do.
No point parking in a well known car park with 10 other vans. May as well check into a campsite...

Wonder if anyone has ever challenged these camping overnight tickets. The proof of camping in some cases seem very weak.
I hear the surfers around Cornwall who use their vans for work have had tickets slapped on their vans because apparently you can’t park a van type vehicle before 9am.

Just because they parked up at 6am and the plonker from the council walks past the vehicle at 6:30 they automatically get a ticket for overnight camping. Seems the wardens have little proof of this activity, other than the vehicle being parked. Which, if it’s Taxed, MOT and insured, I can’t see what grounds they have for issuing a ticket.

 

[Elly Swanson]

Just park in a quiet residential street. That’s what I do.
No point parking in a well known car park with 10 other vans. May as well check into a campsite...

Wonder if anyone has ever challenged these camping overnight tickets. The proof of camping in some cases seem very weak.
I hear the surfers around Cornwall who use their vans for work have had tickets slapped on their vans because apparently you can’t park a van type vehicle before 9am.

Just because they parked up at 6am and the plonker from the council walks past the vehicle at 6:30 they automatically get a ticket for overnight camping. Seems the wardens have little proof of this activity, other than the vehicle being parked. Which, if it’s Taxed, MOT and insured, I can’t see what grounds they have for issuing a ticket.

You'd probably win an appeal under those circumstances, but such a pain in the butt getting it sorted.