Which electric car to buy?

[OooOooTheMonkey]

Depreciation is ultimately the problem of the owner/leaser as with increased interest rates and uncertain residuals, this will all be factored into the monthly lease costs and make them significantly more costly. The only thing which slight edges leases for EV's is contract hire includes the cost of road tax which is much lower on EV's......for now.

Sort of. It’s priced on a best guess at what depreciation will be when the contract is taken out. After taking the contract out the price is locked in. When you take it out you have the opportunity to consider the cost and decide if it’s worth it or not compared to the alternatives, so the depreciation being factored into the price is hardly an issue.

 

[Lambeth Cali]

For those that believe EVs are impossible to insure, will catch fire, soon be worthless and now apparently will stop working when the manufacturer withdraws software support…

https://vwcaliforniaclub.com/threads/is-there-increasing-resistance-against-ev’s.47773/page-20#post-672716

 

[Lambeth Cali]

How many years until the manufacturer withdraws support for the cars operating system?

Pretty difficult to get a hairdryer without an operating system these days.

As I’ve already hacked mine to get wireless CarPlay, it won’t be going anywhere near a dealer anyway (just like my Cali).

I’m sure you’re right though!!

 

[ArunAlec]

Pretty difficult to get a hairdryer without an operating system these days.

As I’ve already hacked mine to get wireless CarPlay, it won’t be going anywhere near a dealer anyway (just like my Cali).

I’m sure you’re right though!!

Too true! My Y Cam security camera (Y Cam bought out by ERA) has just had all support withdrawn this includes the ability to use as a standalone camera.
YCam had some time earlier withdrawn their “Lifetime Cloud Storage” feature even for customers who had bought systems with it included!

 

[Corradobrit]

Too true! My Y Cam security camera (Y Cam bought out by ERA) has just had all support withdrawn this includes the ability to use as a standalone camera.
YCam had some time earlier withdrawn their “Lifetime Cloud Storage” feature even for customers who had bought systems with it included!

Reminds me of those Sony TIVO systems from back in the 90's. Pay extra for 'lifetime' access and when the technology is defunct you're SOL.

 

[soulstyledevon]

Too true! My Y Cam security camera (Y Cam bought out by ERA) has just had all support withdrawn this includes the ability to use as a standalone camera.
YCam had some time earlier withdrawn their “Lifetime Cloud Storage” feature even for customers who had bought systems with it included!

Is it because it’s an IP based camera system…?
Anything sitting on the web can be hacked, eventfully the tech becomes obsolete and theres no point or any cost initiative to support the product.

 

[GrannyJen]

Pretty difficult to get a hairdryer without an operating system these days.

As I’ve already hacked mine to get wireless CarPlay,

Why do you need Car play for your hair dryer?

 

[Lambeth Cali]

Why do you need Car play for your hair dryer?

It’s a big house!

 

[JuanVecino2023]

Costco offer.
£8000 off an ID.Buzz. Glad we decided to sell ours with a £895 loss, and buy another Cali.

So glad I cancelled my order (put in July ‘22) last month and ordered a California instead.

 

[Lambeth Cali]

“Goldman Sachs says that prices for batteries will fall a further 40% by 2025.”

3 reasons why electric cars will soon get a lot cheaper — Business Insider

Some automakers are slowing down EV production, saying electric vehicles are too expensive. They have a point, with drivers looking to buy an EV having to pay a hefty premium. But new batteries, production methods, and improved charging networks mean prices are set to drop.

apple.news

Interesting US business article.

 

[Lambeth Cali]

My electric car is becoming an obsession. I’m now watching documentaries and getting original brochures off eBay!




Later, I’ll be happily drinking a glass of wine whilst reading about the carbon fibre reinforced plastic safety cell!

 

[chockswahay]

My electric car is becoming an obsession. I’m now watching documentaries and getting original brochures off eBay!
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You need therapy!

 

[Kayleigh]

My electric car is becoming an obsession. I’m now watching documentaries and getting original brochures off eBay!
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I saw an i3 Police car in London today!!

 

[Kayleigh]

My electric car is becoming an obsession. I’m now watching documentaries and getting original brochures off eBay!
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The BMW i3 is faster than a Porsche!!!

 

[Lambeth Cali]

The BMW i3 is faster than a Porsche!!!

My brother has a Cayman. I might mention that.

 

[andyinluton]

A white transit van is quicker than both of those, as are most hire cars...

 

[ArunAlec]

A white transit van is quicker than both of those, as are most hire cars...

How’s the Transit on corners?

 

[Barry Chuckle]

A white transit van is quicker than both of those, as are most hire cars...

Will electric transits be hypersonic then?

 

[andyinluton]

How’s the Transit on corners?

With a pallet of bricks in the back it sticks like s**t to a blanket.

 

[Corradobrit]

Not much space for a kettle or your undies but safe to say this will smoke any Porsche or Beemer (at least in a straight line).

 

[soulstyledevon]

The BMW i3 is faster than a Porsche!!!

So the i3 struggles against a bog standard 2.9 Cayman. After 3 spirited pushes it’s out of breath…

The standard Cayman, even with that tiny motor will keep pushing harder all day long, will leave the i3 dead in the corners and post 95mph will push on well past 150mph.
You could see the smiles on the novice behind the wheel of the Cayman….

 

[Kayleigh]

So the i3 struggles against a bog standard 2.9 Cayman. After 3 spirited pushes it’s out of breath…

The standard Cayman, even with that tiny motor will keep pushing harder all day long, will leave the i3 dead in the corners and post 95mph will push on well past 150mph.
You could see the smiles on the novice behind the wheel of the Cayman….

Given the i3 is a city car, a fairer comparison would be the real world 0-30 away from the lights in city traffic, the ability to drive without much need to use the brakes and being able to squeeze through narrow gaps. On those terms the i3 is a clear winner

 

[andyinluton]

Given the i3 is a city car, a fairer comparison would be the real world 0-30 away from the lights in city traffic, the ability to drive without much need to use the brakes and being able to squeeze through narrow gaps. On those terms the i3 is a clear winner

Just a shame it doesn't stop in as short a distance as a Cayman, as far as pedestrians are concerned that makes it a clear loser!

 

[Kayleigh]

Just a shame it doesn't stop in as short a distance as a Cayman, as far as pedestrians are concerned that makes it a clear loser!

As a regular cyclist in London though, I would much rather be overtaken by a clean electric car than a dirty diesel or polluting petrol.

 

[andyinluton]

As a regular cyclist in London though, I would much rather be overtaken by a clean electric car than a dirty diesel or polluting petrol.

Biggest emissions these days are tyre and brake dust. I believe electric cars still have tyres & brakes?