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thank you...see photos posted on comment below
I’m afraid that is not the Diesel Powered Parking Heater.
that is the Rear Heater controller and vent for the Engine powered normal vehicle heating system.

On the Drivers door, on the side next to the B Pillar there should be 2 labels detailing which Diesel Powered Heaters are fitted . A Webasto, for heating the engine coolant if the ambient temperature is 5c or less, and the Eberspacher Parking Heater which heats the air in the cabin and runs off the Leisure Battery Independant of the engine.

The Eberspacher was an Option on the Beach.
 
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I’m afraid that is not the Diesel Powered Parking Heater.
that is the Rear Heater controller and vent for the Engine powered normal vehicle heating system.

On the Drivers door, on the side next to the B Pillar there should be 2 labels detailing which Diesel Powered Heaters are fitted . A Webasto, for heating the engine coolant if the ambient temperature is 5c or less, and the Eberspacher Parking Heater which heats the air in the cabin and runs off the Leisure Battery Independant of the engine.

The Eberspacher was an Option on the Beach.
well that explains a lot, thank you...so basically i'm s**t out of luck on the heater front...I wonder why they dont fit it as standard...so I guess that means the leisure battery only runs the rear lights which seems a bit of a waste and in which case it wont run and independent heater without hammering the main battery
 
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well that explains a lot, thank you...so basically i'm s**t out of luck on the heater front...I wonder why they dont fit it as standard...so I guess that means the leisure battery only runs the rear lights which seems a bit of a waste and in which case it wont run and independent heater without hammering the main battery
My best guess is that to keep the base price of the Beach as low as possible, they strip the vehicle right down and allow buyers to add the expensive options.

On hookup you can run a small fan heater from the 240 volt socket, or if you want something quieter, an oil filled radiator.

We power a compressor fridge from the leisure battery, we also use it to charge iPhones and iPads, and for external lighting.
 
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well that explains a lot, thank you...so basically i'm s**t out of luck on the heater front...I wonder why they dont fit it as standard...so I guess that means the leisure battery only runs the rear lights which seems a bit of a waste and in which case it wont run and independent heater without hammering the main battery
Sadly it has always been an option on the beach, standard on the SE and Ocean. Yes the 12v pretty much runs the lights, and any other things you attach such as phones, fridges etc.

Heaters can be retrofitted relatively easily, I had mine done with a webasto. Some of the planar heaters are surprisingly cheap now too.

You will undoubtedly have the Webasto Coolant heater which can have a remote fitted relatively easily. It can then be used for a short time as a heater. However it runs from the engine battery powered so would be restricted to about 30 mins to stop you flattening the battery. Its designed really just to warm up the engine on a cold day.

If you have hookup though its easy to use something like the Kampa Cuboid, or an oil filled radiator from mains.
 
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thanks everyone, such a lot of useful info..please excuse the low light photos but they will hopefully clear this up...the rear heater control as you can see is underneath the main heater and not on a consul above, the vent is located just inside rear sliding door...I'm assuming with all the feedback that I have had that either its just a rear heater and was never meant to run independently (or off the leisure battery which definitely exists, i've checked) or that basically I need to get the mains cable, charge for 24 hours, see if the rear heater then works as suggested without the keys in (or at all) and if not i'll head back to the dealer... many thanks john

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This is an additional heat exchanger/hot air outlet for the standard engine heater, with the fan/temp. control below the regular dash control. You don't have a parking heater, which is a separate machine located below the van on the right side, and burns diesel fuel from the fuel tank.
 
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Hi @john rensten -- you could get a parking heater retrofitted.

A few threads on the forum about that -- will cost you somewhere in the region of £1000-ish.
 
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Hi @john rensten -- you could get a parking heater retrofitted.

A few threads on the forum about that -- will cost you somewhere in the region of £1000-ish.
Sorry to hear that - now it's been pointed out I see that's ambiguous, and the whole naming convention is also terrible too ...

As above I bought my (otherwise spot-on spec) demo Beach without a heater knowing I could get one retrofitted for c. £1,000. There are several threads on it & mine was one of the first few T6s done by Exploria in Brighouse:

 
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Looking at the Exploria website via the link provided above I noticed the 'ThermoCall TC4 Advanced' and had a look at the sticker on the door in our 2019 Beach.
Anyone installed on this on a Auxiliary heater for pre heating/defrosting and the occasional boost as a blow of warm air wake up on a frosty morning. I don't mind it being cold when sleeping in bed but want it warm when I need to get out of a slumber. Do I need to spend the £1000 on a parking heater?

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Looking at the Exploria website via the link provided above I noticed the 'ThermoCall TC4 Advanced' and had a look at the sticker on the door in our 2019 Beach.
Anyone installed on this on a Auxiliary heater for pre heating/defrosting and the occasional boost as a blow of warm air wake up on a frosty morning. I don't mind it being cold when sleeping in bed but want it warm when I need to get out of a slumber. Do I need to spend the £1000 on a parking heater?

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Looks like the Thermo Call is meant to work with the ThermoTop 2000ST, a full parking heater. Looks like yours is the standard automatic coolant heater, which they can modify to be driver controlled.
Caravelle / Shuttle / Transporter - Secondary Heater 7 Day Timer
The majority of VW Caravelles & Shuttles are factory fitted with a secondary diesel heater as standard. We can add a 7 day timer to this heater, including a few modifications and alterations to the wiring loom. This allows programmable functions which enables the user to use the diesel heater as a secondary heater system, for a maximum of 2 hours at a time. This addition is great for those who want to:

  • Set the heater to come on half an hour before they go to work to warm and defrost the vehicle
  • Have a reliable heating system, capable of 2 hour stints for those odd chilly nights that you camp out in your van
The addition of this 7 day timer is good but not a patch on having a full Airtop 2000 kit fitted with the comparable 7 day timer or Thermo Call device(depending on requirements)

Pricing varies depending on application and requirements, but as a guide £500 + VAT

The difference between the two is that the coolant heater uses pumps to circulate the coolant and dashboard fans to heat the cabin, and therefor has higher battery usage than the parking heater, which just heats air, so gets hotter quicker with much lower battery usage. I have both, programable coolant heater factory installed and Webasto parking heater aftermarket. I use the coolant heater to preheat the motor to lower wear when cold, and the parking heater to heat the cabin at night.
 
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