California Vehicle Classification & VW UK

[B J G]

Yes it has a private plate, that must be the reason.

Mine's on a Private plate with no problem. 3rd vehicle.

 

[B J G]

V5 says ‘M1’
also says:
euro status: EURO 6 DG
body type: MPV

No Euro status item on my V5C.
Not on the car V5C either.

 

[GrumpyGranddad]

Mine’s on a private plate with no problem. (4th vehicle). California Ocean 199PS MY21

 

[Ian Maddocks]

Mine’s on a private plate with no problem. (4th vehicle). California Ocean 199PS MY21

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Hi GumpyGranddad.
I get the say result in motorway.co.uk site, except I have a much higher CO2 emission - VW know how to get great results!

I have contacted TfL to raise my issue. Thanks to everyone for your help.

 

[GrumpyGranddad]

Hi GumpyGranddad.
I get the say result in motorway.co.uk site, except I have a much higher CO2 emission - VW know how to get great results!

I have contacted TfL to raise my issue. Thanks to everyone for your help.

I get the say result in motorway.co.uk site, except I have a much higher CO2 emission - VW know how to get great results!

 

[WelshGas]

DVLA changed their mind, re-classified vehicle and as a result refunded Vehicle Tax overpayment.

DVLA classification

Purchased our secondhand MP last May and it was registered as an MPV. I was paying the expensive RFL band and it caused me a few problems getting it insured as a camper van and not an MPV. I have posted before on this group about getting the classification changed and been in contact with the...

www.marcopoloownersclub.com

 

[Scoobz1]

DVLA changed their mind, re-classified vehicle and as a result refunded Vehicle Tax overpayment.

DVLA classification

Purchased our secondhand MP last May and it was registered as an MPV. I was paying the expensive RFL band and it caused me a few problems getting it insured as a camper van and not an MPV. I have posted before on this group about getting the classification changed and been in contact with the...

www.marcopoloownersclub.com

Anybody gone or planning to go down this route with an MPV registered 2019 California ?

If so what are the benefits, besides cheaper initial tax ? Is it likely to be more beneficial to have it registered as an MPV or the usual California classification when it comes to congestion charges, etc ?

 

[Ian Maddocks]

Anybody gone or planning to go down this route with an MPV registered 2019 California ?

If so what are the benefits, besides cheaper initial tax ? Is it likely to be more beneficial to have it registered as an MPV or the usual California classification when it comes to congestion charges, etc ?

I plan to try this as I feeling locked into my insurance company, which I was lucky they accepted an MPV as a Motorhome when this was fresh news in 2019 but years later I’m not confident I could shop around.

I was also told that some sites do not accept you unless your V5 says Motorhome, Restrictive Covenants limiting what they can accept. Personally I can’t imagine a site asking to see your V5.

As a downside to reclassifying I won’t be able to classify as a Car on the fairies and therefore have to pay the little extra. However, I doubt I would have been successful in classifying as a Car to the ferries as I hear they look inside and see the kitchen and call you out. I think the same might apply to some tolls.

If I go ahead do I need to cover mine in decals

 

[2into1]

Being an mpv might become a sought after status as the clean air zones target 'vans' (see the Greater Manchester CAZ thread.

 

[Scoobz1]

Being an mpv might become a sought after status as the clean air zones target 'vans' (see the Greater Manchester CAZ thread.

Are they all / generally targeting vans or is it just the greater Manchester one? My particular vehicle is classified as M1 with a body type of MPV

 

[2into1]

Are they all / generally targeting vans or is it just the greater Manchester one? My particular vehicle is classified as M1 with a body type of MPV

I'm not sure, I'm only studying my local one (Greater Manchester). I don't object much to not being allowed to drive into a city, but I do object when I can't turn a wheel from my drive without paying £10.

 

[Scoobz1]

Does look like a lot the announced schemes will omit private cars and target older vans and larger vehicles so a M1 body type and an MPV classification might well be an advantage in the future - though paying the extra road tax for 6 years you would have to in the zones a lot to realise any potential benefit

UK Clean Air Zones and Low Emission Zones: Complete Guides

UK Clean Air Zones and Low Emissions Zones are being introduced across the UK. What are they and how will they affect drivers? Read on to find out.

www.carwow.co.uk

 

[Scoobz1]

I plan to try this as I feeling locked into my insurance company, which I was lucky they accepted an MPV as a Motorhome when this was fresh news in 2019 but years later I’m not confident I could shop around.

I was also told that some sites do not accept you unless your V5 says Motorhome, Restrictive Covenants limiting what they can accept. Personally I can’t imagine a site asking to see your V5.

As a downside to reclassifying I won’t be able to classify as a Car on the fairies and therefore have to pay the little extra. However, I doubt I would have been successful in classifying as a Car to the ferries as I hear they look inside and see the kitchen and call you out. I think the same might apply to some tolls.

If I go ahead do I need to cover mine in decals

Please keep me updated as I might well do the same - especially if you can claim back the cost of past years

 

[Resfeber]

I'm not sure, I'm only studying my local one (Greater Manchester). I don't object much to not being allowed to drive into a city, but I do object when I can't turn a wheel from my drive without paying £10.

Are they all / generally targeting vans or is it just the greater Manchester one? My particular vehicle is classified as M1 with a body type of MPV

The Manchester CAZ decision to include M1/MSP1 passenger class vehicles with a body type description “Motorcaravan” on the V5 and N1/N2 (N1 up to 3.5 tonnes/N2 3.5 to 12 tonnes) is a local decision to the 10 Manchester local authorities.
As 2 into 1 says issue is it affects those residents who have a non compliant vehicle particularly as a daily driver with no right of appeal on grounds of hardship, while anyone with an identical vehicle but classed as MPV or say a Kombi conversion or Caravelle will not be charged.

Makes no sense to include a small number of none commercial vehicles.

See this post and details

Greater Manchester Clean Air Zone

Motorcaravans (also known as motorhomes or campervans) with Euro 6 or cleaner emission standards are compliant and will not be charged to drive in the Clean Air Zone Just to clarify, the issue is if the vehicle is classed as an LGV (light goods vehicle category N)...

vwcaliforniaclub.com

 

[2into1]

I just updated the Manchester thread, the Manchester CAZ is rapidly being put to sleep. Our local worries are I think over for MANY years.

 

[homerorchid]

Thought this might be of interest; just paid my vehicle road tax on my 2019 California Ocean 4Motion "MPV" and it's cost me £490

 

[homerorchid]

Just to clarify, the £490 is made up of £155 vehicle tax and £335 Luxury Vehicle Tax. Seems the £335 Luxury Vehicle Tax is paid for 5yrs after the initial 1st year payment, in my case as far as I understand it, in 2025 my vehicle tax will be £155 (at today's prices) per year

 

[BeeBee]

Just paid £520 for our VW Cali Ocean 150. Taxed as a Diesel car, just another of this Govt. ‘rip offs’ !

 

[ColliePops]

Just paid £520 for our VW Cali Ocean 150. Taxed as a Diesel car, just another of this Govt. ‘rip offs’ !

I'm the same - but hey cheaper than 6 months as a " monthly value" of tax paid when I come to SORN latter in the year, instead of having six months and then SORNing part way through another 6 month spread. That's the way I look at it.