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TripleBee

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Thanks again everyone for their replies - this bank holiday weekend in Ireland I had booked a T6 Cali for rental (never have drive one before) but covid-19 restrictions put a stop to that and I am anxious about ordering one without that driving / camping experience. Might just take the plunge irrespective ...... h
If they really want to sell you one, they will have to let you drive one to test it.
Just wear your face mask and disposable gloves.
I didn't test drive one myself, and I hardly knew what I was buying back in the days, but I have never regretted my choice. If you are confident enough, you can take the plunge, if not, insist on a test drive.
 
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If they really want to sell you one, they will have to let you drive one to test it.
Just wear your face mask and disposable gloves.
I didn't test drive one myself, and I hardly knew what I was buying back in the days, but I have never regretted my choice. If you are confident enough, you can take the plunge, if not, insist on a test drive.
Issue is not the dealer - it's Government restrictions otherwise I would be gone to test drive in a flash ! New Ocean only in at dealer.
 
Bobthebus

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We have a Cali and an eGolf - which if you need/decide to have 2 cars I think is a good combination. Once you've driven an electric car you're unlikely to go back. If you've got a Cali and only need an electric car for local use it also opens up the possibility of older electric cars with more limited range. It's definitely more expensive than just running the Cali, but the added flexibility for the 2 of us, the dirt cheap running costs and joy of driving an e car, make it worthwhile for us.
We also have this combination which works very well. With the eGolf for all the short local trips and the Cali for longer trips and holidays.
 
TripleBee

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Issue is not the dealer - it's Government restrictions otherwise I would be gone to test drive in a flash ! New Ocean only in at dealer.
Ah, didn't know that.
Are things going that bad in Ireland at the moment? Or is Belgium yet again undecided about what to do?
 
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Sean Fallon

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Good afternoon,

I use my camper as a daily drive since November 2017 going to work, shopping, leisure etc.

So far there is no problem to use it as a daily drive, with one exception and that is the height. I don't believe that 2 m high for a car park is enough.

It is good that I only go very seldom to Dublin, because I only drive into car parks that are at least 2.1 m height. There are a few in Dublin but they are very "cramped".

Collecting or giving people a lift to the airport (in the good old times) is only possible because Terminal 2 car park is 2.1 m.

If we would need to visit somebody in any of the hospitals in the greater Dublin area we would be in a bit of trouble. In this case I would use my wife's car.

For day trips that can be a problem as well. More and more car parks in nice areas have a barrier with 2 m, or even 1.9 m, of height. :confused: It is really annoying.

You might want to consider this when you plan where to go with the camper. Some people are ok with 2 m car park, and at some stage I will try it carefully, but at the moment this is not an option for me.

Beside this is fine. I love to drive the California and even for the Ocean (higher weight) I won't use more diesel than with my VW Tiguan which I had before.

In Ireland there is another issue, which actually has nothing to do with the vehicle itself, but with the car insurance. My car insurance is due for renewal. At the moment there is only one company that offers car insurance for a camper as a daily drive. I am not unhappy about the cost, but if this company decide to stop this service I am in trouble (something to keep in mind for all Irish California owner which use the camper as a daily drive). I don't believe you have the same problems in the UK.

Happy California,
Eberhard
You can go into 2mtr car parks as the cali is 1.90 high , I've been in St James hospital underground car park several times with mine
But anything under 1.9 mtr you won't fit
 
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Sean Fallon

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Thanks - really insightful from an Irish perspective. Can you advise on the insurance company that insures campers used for daily drives ?
018251364 this is the number of the Motorcaravan club if you go through them for insurance you can drive your van as a daily driver ,social domestic and pleasure, but it costs about €70 a year for club membership , if you get insurance with dolmen or stuart's you have to have a second vehicle,
Hope this helps
 
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kearneyrob

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018251364 this is the number of the Motorcaravan club if you go through them for insurance you can drive your van as a daily driver ,social domestic and pleasure, but it costs about €70 a year for club membership , if you get insurance with dolmen or stuart's you have to have a second vehicle,
Hope this helps
THanks Sean - very useful info.
 
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A single trip to my work and back is only 12km. I never take premium diesel (I only refuel at the lowest price pumps). I never drive longer trips just for DPF reasons. Never had an issue with the DPF or engine because of my driving style yet.

I never park in underground or multi storage parkings.
I always try to get under the 2 meter barrier, and I might even try 1.9m barriers (if they are over 2m in real life).
French péage, if there is a lot of traffic, I take the 2m gates. First time I drove very slowly under the barrier. All the other times, I just fly in the gate like with a normal car. Only if the barrier isn't really straight, I take another gate.

The biggest problem I encounter is the width and length in roadside parking spaces. They are made for Up!s and Polo's. Not for real cars ;).
We only have a Pheaton (A8, S-class, 7 series) sized car, just a bit higher.
Not seen a Pheaton for years :cheers
 
66tim99

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Thanks again everyone for their replies - this bank holiday weekend in Ireland I had booked a T6 Cali for rental (never have drive one before) but covid-19 restrictions put a stop to that and I am anxious about ordering one without that driving / camping experience. Might just take the plunge irrespective ...... h
You won’t regret it. But if you do hire one before delivery and don’t like it ... I’ve heard it’s easy to cancel and receive your deposit back. They are selling like hot cakes and a new one is up to 6 months from order to delivery.
 
Eber123

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THanks Sean - very useful info.
Good afternoon,

This week I contacted Stuarts Insurance, giving them detailed information about the vehicle, me and the service I was looking for.

I got an email back that Stuarts Insurance saying they cannot insure campers for daily use, even if there is a second car in the household:

"... Unfortunately we don’t insure Campervans for primary use. We only insure them for holiday use. ..."

For the best of my knowledge there is only Dolmen Insurance left to provide insurance service for campers which are used as a daily drive.

Interesting is the Motorcaravan Club. I will have a look at the webpage. Maybe even with the yearly membership rate there might be some extra offers that makes it worthwhile.

Happy California,
Eberhard
 
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You can go into 2mtr car parks as the cali is 1.90 high , I've been in St James hospital underground car park several times with mine
But anything under 1.9 mtr you won't fit
Hello Sean,

Thank you for the information.

I am still worried to drive into a carpark even with 2 m height. According to VW Technical Dimensions the camper is 1,990mm high that is only 10 mm shy of 2 m!

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As far as I can see (know) the awning will add an additional few millimeters to the height.

Also there is at least one car park in Dublin that is 2.1 m in height, but within the car park is an area which is considerably lower. Of course warning signs are only a few and difficult to spot. I only saw them while I was walking in the car park to find the way out.

Happy California,
Eberhard
 
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Sean Fallon

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Good afternoon,

This week I contacted Stuarts Insurance, giving them detailed information about the vehicle, me and the service I was looking for.

I got an email back that Stuarts Insurance saying they cannot insure campers for daily use, even if there is a second car in the household:

"... Unfortunately we don’t insure Campervans for primary use. We only insure them for holiday use. ..."

For the best of my knowledge there is only Dolmen Insurance left to provide insurance service for campers which are used as a daily drive.

Interesting is the Motorcaravan Club. I will have a look at the webpage. Maybe even with the yearly membership rate there might be some extra offers that makes it worthwhile.

Happy California,
Eberhard
The Motorcaravan club go through Allianz for the Insurance and are the only one in Ireland to insure for social domestic and pleasure purposes
But you must go through the club
Hope this helps
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westfalia

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You can go into 2mtr car parks as the cali is 1.90 high , I've been in St James hospital underground car park several times with mine
But anything under 1.9 mtr you won't fit
You're risking it a bit there,
mine is either 1.94 or 1.96m and its been lowered.

Have you measured yours at 1.9m?
The awning is not the highest point, i think the highest point is in
the middle of the roof.
 
Legin

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Reading this thread I wish I could accept using my cali as a daily but alas Im in the other band on here that enjoy occasional spirited driving. For that a cali can never match a decent car for the pure pleasure of driving. So I have the affliction to own an Audi, Porsche, Skoda, Classic Alfa, Classic mini and classic motorcycle. So the cali just gets used for camping, I guess I should have bought a bigger camper really. In reality I cant justify any of them. Ah well.
For the OP you can certainly daily a Cali but its still a lumbering machine more akin to driving an old school Discovery / Shogun/ Landcruiser.
 
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Sean Fallon

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You're risking it a bit there,
mine is either 1.94 or 1.96m and its been lowered.

Have you measured yours at 1.9m?
The awning is not the highest point, i think the highest point is in
the middle of the roof.
Mine is 1990mm and I can get under 2mtr barriers
Maybe they say its 2 Mars but they might be a margin for error , if I'm in doubt the other half gets out to make sure
 
TripleBee

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Dashcamfootage from my California.
If it's very busy on the péage, I go to the left or middle side with the 2 meter barriers. A lot of people (even with normal cars) don't take those lanes.
I think they are even 2,10 or 2,20 m high.
First time I went very slowly under the barrier, but now I know, I just fly through.
 
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HI everyone, still considering purchase of a new T6.1 California Ocean in 199bhp / 7 DSG guise and this will serve both as a camper and my daily run around. Would like to hear owners' experience of running T6.1 California as a daily car.

Thanks in advance, Rob
I am late to this discussion, but thought I'd add a couple of thoughts. Whilst I agree with what everyone has said about the driving experience of a Cali, the thing that I miss is the load carrying ease of a regular daily car. Before we bought our T6 Ocean we had a number of different large estate cars - the last being a Volvo V70. I used to load it with furniture, garden waste, anything really and so long as I put some sort of protection in the load area, it would take tons of things. I used it in combination with a topbox to move my kids from student halls to flats on loads of occasions. Whilst on the face of it my Cali should be better at this job, as it is after all based on a van, there are a couple of reasons why it isn't.

Firstly, the storage area/wardrobe on the left side restricts the width of anything you need to carry and the materials inside are a very light grey and prone to marking, so you need to be careful about getting everything covered. Also - if you are like us, you will end up with your Cali loaded and ready to go camping at a moments notice. That means that if you want to use it as a load lugger you will firstly need to make space. I have given up trying to use our Cali as a replacement family car. It is fine for driving around on errands and normal runs, but I know that I will eventually trash the interior of what is a very expensive vehicle if I use it for any load lugging. A tow-bar and trailer would have been a good idea, but our Ocean doesn't have all the pre-electrics fitted for a tow-bar so would be a fortune to fit. I am instead going to buy an inexpensive old estate car for local stuff - and try to keep our Cali in a decent state.
 
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I am late to this discussion, but thought I'd add a couple of thoughts. Whilst I agree with what everyone has said about the driving experience of a Cali, the thing that I miss is the load carrying ease of a regular daily car. Before we bought our T6 Ocean we had a number of different large estate cars - the last being a Volvo V70. I used to load it with furniture, garden waste, anything really and so long as I put some sort of protection in the load area, it would take tons of things. I used it in combination with a topbox to move my kids from student halls to flats on loads of occasions. Whilst on the face of it my Cali should be better at this job, as it is after all based on a van, there are a couple of reasons why it isn't.

Firstly, the storage area/wardrobe on the left side restricts the width of anything you need to carry and the materials inside are a very light grey and prone to marking, so you need to be careful about getting everything covered. Also - if you are like us, you will end up with your Cali loaded and ready to go camping at a moments notice. That means that if you want to use it as a load lugger you will firstly need to make space. I have given up trying to use our Cali as a replacement family car. It is fine for driving around on errands and normal runs, but I know that I will eventually trash the interior of what is a very expensive vehicle if I use it for any load lugging. A tow-bar and trailer would have been a good idea, but our Ocean doesn't have all the pre-electrics fitted for a tow-bar so would be a fortune to fit. I am instead going to buy an inexpensive old estate car for local stuff - and try to keep our Cali in a decent state.
I would counter the above argument by saying that the cost of buying and running an additional vehicle is likely more than the extra depreciation on the Cali. Plus the Cali get regular use as a daily drive, which is good for it.
I also think it’s fine as a load lugger and have used mine at the tip, take daughter to uni, etc.
It’s all down to personal taste imo.
 
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