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Difference between 6.1 California 150hp and 204hp diesel drivetrains

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Are the 2 drivetrains the same with only different software mapping to increase power and torque?

or does the 204hp have different parts such as bigger turbos, exhaust configurations or gearbox/engine internals?
 
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Are the 2 drivetrains the same with only different software mapping to increase power and torque?

or does the 204hp have different parts such as bigger turbos, exhaust configurations or gearbox/engine internals?
The 204 is a bi-turbo. It has 2 turbos , different manifold, EGR system etc:
Gearbox + wheel drivetrain are similar as far as I am aware
 
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The 150 204 argument runs on forever. I have had both. Now running the 204 . No way I would go back to adequate. The 204 is an awesome engine
 
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You’re joking of course.
I tested them both side by side before buying. Same switchbacks up the same mountain, same starts on roundabouts, same highway stretch. There was a slightly higher top speed, I'll give you that, but acceleration was unremarkable in both.
The trailer bit comes from my dealer. I didn't test it myself.
 
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I tested them both side by side before buying. Same switchbacks up the same mountain, same starts on roundabouts, same highway stretch. There was a slightly higher top speed, I'll give you that, but acceleration was unremarkable in both.
The trailer bit comes from my dealer. I didn't test it myself.
Obviously something wrong with the 204. Just saying.
 
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If you must have two turbots then at least put them on a decent engine.
150 / 204 / 745 - It’s still a van !!!
 
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The 204 is an awesome engine
In terms of torque I absolutely agree, but also in cost of maintenance.. A lot of 204hp Bi-turbos have the same issues as the T5 / T6 180hp: Leaking EGRs, extreme oil-consumption, turbos worn at 80k miles, etc..
 
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In terms of torque I absolutely agree, but also in cost of maintenance.. A lot of 204hp Bi-turbos have the same issues as the T5 / T6 180hp: Leaking EGRs, extreme oil-consumption, turbos worn at 80k miles, etc..
So you say, owning a 150. A little biased I would suggest. But if you have to convince yourself you made the correct decision, then go ahead.
 
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Dad had a 199, not worth the lower mpg or extra £3k, emissions and insurance. 199 without 4M is pointless. It’s a van. The 150 will cruise at 100mph and never feels sluggish. Spend the money on DCC and a ceramic and Dinitrol coat.
 
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Dad had a 199, not worth the lower mpg or extra £3k, emissions and insurance. 199 without 4M is pointless. It’s a van. The 150 will cruise at 100mph and never feels sluggish. Spend the money on DCC and a ceramic and Dinitrol coat.
At a steady 85mph I’ve found the bigger engine to be more economical.
The biggest difference is the way it picks up speed between 40and 80mph the extra torque makes it far more relaxing, in comparison to our old van it either has the same performance whilst being in a gear ratio or two higher, or far more performance in the same gears.
 
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At a steady 85mph I’ve found the bigger engine to be more economical.
The biggest difference is the way it picks up speed between 40and 80mph the extra torque makes it far more relaxing, in comparison to our old van it either has the same performance whilst being in a gear ratio or two higher, or far more performance in the same gears.
Cruising at between 85 and 100 mph? This is another world from the 65 that is my normal cruising speed on motorways etc. Now I understand why people are so keen to modify their suspension, got to keep that van on the road somehow.
 
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Often overtaken by lower hp vans/campers on downhill stretches of main roads and then we hit an uphill stretch and glide pass, to be repeated on the next downhill stretch. ;)
 
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Cruising at between 85 and 100 mph? This is another world from the 65 that is my normal cruising speed on motorways etc. Now I understand why people are so keen to modify their suspension, got to keep that van on the road somehow.
Yes, that’s why the Cali specialist at our VW car dealership told us one should only consider a 204 hp engine in combination with 4Motion. A 204 hp engine with 2M would be a waste of money… This is the reason why here in Switzerland virtually all 204 hp are 4x4s…
So if your not planning to drive “ambulance speeds” with your Cali, 150 hp is more than enough (IMHO) :thumb
 
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Cruising at between 85 and 100 mph? This is another world from the 65 that is my normal cruising speed on motorways etc. Now I understand why people are so keen to modify their suspension, got to keep that van on the road somehow.
France is big and the speed limit is 83mph got to get through it to Spain somehow.
I’ve not found the need to change the suspension it’s absolutely fine for high speed cruising.
 

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