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Difference between 6.1 California 150hp and 204hp diesel drivetrains

andyinluton

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Yes, that’s why the Cali specialist at our VW car dealership told us one should only consider a 204 hp engine in combination with 4Motion. A 204 hp engine with 2M would be a waste of money
Four wheel drive makes no difference other than increased fuel consumption at high speed.
It’s of more use doing Grand Prix starts and on hairpin bends.
 
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So you say, owning a 150. A little biased I would suggest. But if you have to convince yourself you made the correct decision, then go ahead.
Yes I own a 150hp, but I made a choice after a lot of research and testdriving. The original plan was to buy a second hand Cali. The 204 drive is supreme to the 150hp and still we bought a 150hp..
 
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Yes I own a 150hp, but I made a choice after a lot of research and testdriving. The original plan was to buy a second hand Cali. The 204 drive is supreme to the 150hp and still we bought a 150hp..
The original OPs question was " Are their differences in the drive train between the 150 and 204 ? " NOT if the 150 is better, worse or adequate compared with the 204.
You made your choice others made theirs, End Of.
 
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If you must have two turbots then at least put them on a decent engine.
150 / 204 / 745 - It’s still a van !!!
Think this is owned my a friend of mine, it’s now in west Africa and gets flown back to Germany each year for a service at BMP where they did the engine swap.
 
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Ones fast and ones slow…
I tested the 204 and went for the 150 4x4 instead. The 204 was tempting with all that torque, but I know the 150 engine to be a real workhouse, variations of which have been used on Golfs and Audis for years with high reliability. Fuel consumption mattered to me also. A friend of mine has the 204, and tells me once over 120kmh it guzzles diesel. I have not found that to be the case with my 150, despite the 4x4 drive train, and it does actually have some guts. I’d still choose the 150 over the 204 if I had to but again, bur for the 110… errrr no lol.
 
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Not comparing apples with pears. I switched from a T6 204 DSG 4 motion Ocean (so a lot of extra weight) to a T6.1 150 DSG Beach.
The Beach is useless on hills with or without towing. And towing the Eriba (which is not heavy) I feel like I need to plan where I am around the HGV’s so I don’t wee wee some one off over taking at 60-65 down hill and then struggling to get over 50 (yes, seriously) on the up hill. I am struggling without towing on the local hilly dual carriage way on a daily basis.
As soon as there is a 204 Beach available in the UK. Yes please.
Don’t have a go at me. I’m just stating my experience.
 
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If you are going 2wd just remap the 150.

More tourque and better fuel economy.

Use the money saved for better options or just save the money.
 
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Not comparing apples with pears. I switched from a T6 204 DSG 4 motion Ocean (so a lot of extra weight) to a T6.1 150 DSG Beach.
The Beach is useless on hills with or without towing. And towing the Eriba (which is not heavy) I feel like I need to plan where I am around the HGV’s so I don’t wee wee some one off over taking at 60-65 down hill and then struggling to get over 50 (yes, seriously) on the up hill. I am struggling without towing on the local hilly dual carriage way on a daily basis.
As soon as there is a 204 Beach available in the UK. Yes please.
Don’t have a go at me. I’m just stating my experience.
Interesting. I have no power issues with my t6 150 DSG. Can do 70 uphill no problem. Not towing as I have nothing to tow.
 
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At a steady 85mph I’ve found the bigger engine to be more economical.
The biggest difference is the way it picks up speed between 40and 80mph the extra torque makes it far more relaxing, in comparison to our old van it either has the same performance whilst being in a gear ratio or two higher, or far more performance in the same gears.
I don’t feel a difference in relaxation. Cruising at 80mph at 2k rpm in 7th with the ACC, lane assist and the DCC Comfort mode on it feels like you’re on autopilot on Monkeys pink cloud. On my 2 runs to Leeds from London I averaged over 40mpg, the second one 43mpg. My dads was mid-high 30’s (but was a T6 not 6.1) I usually sit at 70mph though, so maybe things change at 85mph
 
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France is big and the speed limit is 83mph got to get through it to Spain somehow.
I’ve not found the need to change the suspension it’s absolutely fine for high speed cruising.
Suspension is definitely adequate for all driving, especially high speed cruising in my experience. But the ability to soften the suspension for eg concrete motorways with expansion gaps, and then firm it up when you come off for the roundabouts or B road twisties makes a big difference. Weighting up the steering with DCC at higher speeds also helps inspire confidence.
 
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I don’t feel a difference in relaxation. Cruising at 80mph at 2k rpm in 7th with the ACC, lane assist and the DCC Comfort mode on it feels like you’re on autopilot on Monkeys
It’s the getting back up to 85 when the traffic clears after being stuck at 60 especially uphill that you notice the difference.
 
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I went for the 150 over the 204 because the long term ownership of twin turbos on a heavy diesel (rightly or wrongly) scares me (based on no science whatsoever) but not been disappointed. Overtakes nicely on A roads when needed and cruises on the motorway at any speed you like, but economy drops off above 65 mph I find. Even on long autobahn runs I don't need more power, although I am sure I would use if if I had it.
 
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I see no point in going 204hp as the rest (suspension, high center of gravity, stiffness etc. ) hardly follows 150hp. And if, it should be with 4M, DCC and chasis lowering.
 
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Awful lot of 150 owners justifying their purchase or intention to purchase . Just saying.
No need to justify buying my poverty spec 150 engine or my temerity in only buying a Beach. It's all down to choice. You'll be suggesting I need to justify the colour it same in too. WG, please let people have their own opinions, it was their hard earned they spent.

Glad you are happy with your choices.
 
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No need to justify buying my poverty spec 150 engine or my temerity in only buying a Beach. It's all down to choice. You'll be suggesting I need to justify the colour it same in too. WG, please let people have their own opinions, it was their hard earned they spent.

Glad you are happy with your choices.
In that case concentrate on the Original Question of this thread instead of banging on about your choice of vehicle.


" Are the 2 drivetrains the same with only different software mapping to increase power and torque?

or does the 204hp have different parts such as bigger turbos, exhaust configurations or gearbox/engine internals?
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I've noticed that if I drive the 150 van on the accelerator the pick up is incredibly sluggish.

However if I use the cruise control speed adjuster and whack it up say from 50 to 70, even for example on a hill, it picks up way faster.

I've never had any issues with going up hill or overtaking.

I suspect the accelerator pedal is purposefully programmed and designed to stop you flooring it, I expect for emission purposes. It's certainly odd.

Try it yourself or it might just be my van but I drive it mostly on the cruise control even in town. I just find it easier and more relaxing and the power delivery is fine.
 

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