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Difference between 6.1 California 150hp and 204hp diesel drivetrains

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T6 Ocean 150
Always happy to take a pop at people with different views and then use the "stay on thread"response when called out on it.

As others have said before you are an amazing and helpful source of Cali knowledge, maybe leave out the "150 owners justifying their choices, just saying" replies. That was off thread.
The reality of carting all that weight about in my case, the cali coast, 150 becomes obvious going up hills. I do wonder about it up the pyrennes cols which I am intending to do. I assume the auto gbox will handle that? I also wonder about hammering the brakes going down. Obviously a lot of wear involved. I am from a sports car so I am yet to get used to the handling at 70mph down a hill. My experience is on flat terrain it likes about 65mph. I did think 300hp would be nice but with all that weight maybe not a sensible idea.
 
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JamesTT

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Uk
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T6.1 Ocean 204
They're both slow and you will be hard put to feel a significant difference between the two until you tow a trailer.
I test drove all three variants before buying my Ocean and there is a clear and significant difference between the 150, 204 and 204 (4 motion). There is nothing wrong with 150 and it cruises brilliantly, but it is significantly slower to accelerate from 0 - 62 than the 204 (4 motion), in fact a whole 3 seconds and this gap increases when accelerating from 30 - 80. It is quite noticeable. You can also feel the difference in the 2 wheel drive version of the 204, from a stand still the wheels can spin but while driving its acceleration is also noticeably quicker than the 150.

Where the 204 comes into its own is when pulling out of junctions and accelerating away (4 motion), joining motorways, especially fast moving busy ones and when overtaking, so you can get around a slower vehicle much more quickly and safely (both 204’s). I haven’t attached a trailer to mine yet.

In terms of insurance the he of the engine was irrelevant to most of the insurance companies I spoke to as these are not fast vehicle. The only thing they were interested in was the cc, which is the same in all.

Can’t comment on the fuel consumption but if you are doing significant motorway miles i would imagine the fuel consumption would be fairly similar between 150 and 204, with the 4 motion using s fraction more.

I’m not a boy racer anymore and prefer to plod along, but prefer to have the extra power of the 204 4 motion on hand, for when i need it.
 
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T6.1 Ocean 150
Where the 204 comes into its own is when pulling out of junctions and accelerating away (4 motion), joining motorways, especially fast moving busy ones and when overtaking, so you can get around a slower vehicle much more quickly and safely (both 204’s). I haven’t attached a trailer to mine yet.
That's interesting, because pulling into roundabouts was my specific use case, where an improvement would have convinced me to go for the larger engine. I tested both vehicles with 2WD on dry tarmac and I didn't think that 4MO would make a difference, but now I'm wondering if that was mistake. Who knows, but since I ordered the 150 with 4MO, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

I have 2 Mini Cooper Ss as my fun daily drives (Countryman in winter and Coupe in Summer) . The Cali is meant for leisure outings where waiting an extra few seconds for a traffic opening isn't going to impact on my holiday vibe.
 
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That's interesting, because pulling into roundabouts was my specific use case, where an improvement would have convinced me to go for the larger engine. I tested both vehicles with 2WD on dry tarmac and I didn't think that 4MO would make a difference, but now I'm wondering if that was mistake. Who knows, but since I ordered the 150 with 4MO, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

I have 2 Mini Cooper Ss as my fun daily drives (Countryman in winter and Coupe in Summer) . The Cali is meant for leisure outings where waiting an extra few seconds for a traffic opening isn't going to impact on my holiday vibe.
The 4Motion is a different animal to the FWD.
Whereas FWD has 100% drive to the front wheels 4Motion starts with 40% front 60% rear and varies from that point depending on the degree of traction front to rear . Hence no wheel spin on front on take off and with the correct tyres can cope with most things in a predictable manner.
Not really fair comparing FWD to 4Motion no matter which engine is powering it.
 
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JamesTT

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Uk
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T6.1 Ocean 204
That's interesting, because pulling into roundabouts was my specific use case, where an improvement would have convinced me to go for the larger engine. I tested both vehicles with 2WD on dry tarmac and I didn't think that 4MO would make a difference, but now I'm wondering if that was mistake. Who knows, but since I ordered the 150 with 4MO, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

I have 2 Mini Cooper Ss as my fun daily drives (Countryman in winter and Coupe in Summer) . The Cali is meant for leisure outings where waiting an extra few seconds for a traffic opening isn't going to impact on my holiday vibe.
I’m sure you will be very happy with your choice… In the U.K. we can’t get 4 motion with the 150, it’s only available with the 204 engine.

I’m also happy to wait for a traffic opening but it’s nice to know you have a bit more shove, if the need arises.
 

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