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FraRon charger

Wayne rocco

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Decided that the original philips charger is fried as it blows an internal fuse as soon as you plug into Mains power. So have ordered a FraRon replacement as suggested by mrcheesbrough and other threads. Has anyone fitted a FraRon replacement? - any detailed instructions or advice gratefully received. It's supposed to be a straight replacement but there have been a few comments about the fridge not working after fitting(?)
Thanks

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California Bubble

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I had the fraron fitted a couple of years back. Can’t give you any technical details on fitting as my local mechanic did it for me, but is did sound like a pull out, drop in job. The fraron works perfectly, but the cooling fan can be a little loud. It’s a noise that I quickly got used to mind..
 
Wayne rocco

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I had the fraron fitted a couple of years back. Can’t give you any technical details on fitting as my local mechanic did it for me, but is did sound like a pull out, drop in job. The fraron works perfectly, but the cooling fan can be a little loud. It’s a noise that I quickly got used to mind..
Thanks California Bubble - ours is also a 2.4D Cali (1992)
 
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There is deffo a couple of threads in here detailing the Faron install
 
ArcticMatt

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There is a thread with these photos on. I've just fitted on to my Exclusive. Dead easy. Just run the new supplied supply cable to the leisure battery along with the new temperature sensor. The other plugs are straight forward.


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Wayne rocco

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There is a thread with these photos on. I've just fitted on to my Exclusive. Dead easy. Just run the new supplied supply cable to the leisure battery along with the new temperature sensor. The other plugs are straight forward.


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Wayne rocco

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Yes thanks, I did find it and installation 'in progress'. Easy bit was fitting the unit. Ironically the main stumbling block at the moment is finding a fuse holder and connectors for the 2.5mm battery cable...........and a wiring diagram would have been helpful. Don't understand why the existing battery cables could not be used?
 
ArcticMatt

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Didn't yours come with two battery cables? The device is fused on the side so you shouldnt need a separate fuse. Not sure why the existing loom was ditched. Maybe it's so it can work on a wider range of westies?

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Wayne rocco

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Didn't yours come with two battery cables? The device is fused on the side so you shouldnt need a separate fuse. Not sure why the existing loom was ditched. Maybe it's so it can work on a wider range of westies?

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Yes, but the 'instructions' say to install a fuse at the battery connection (25-30Amp when I asked)
What are the second set of battery leads for?
 
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Yes, but the 'instructions' say to install a fuse at the battery connection (25-30Amp when I asked)
What are the second set of battery leads for?
Interesting. I best double check. I thought it meant fit the fuse supplied. There are two outputs on the charger. You can hook the second one to the engine battery but the second lead is the same length as the other. I'm still sorting out the second output. I'm going to tie it into the terminal at the split charge relay in the back rather than running a new cable the full length of the van.

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Wayne rocco

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FraRon Installation. Now installed and working. Prong indication works on the control panel. Fan is a little noisy but probably no worse than the fridge running. In the end was fairly easy except for finding the correct (yellow tag) connectors for the thicker battery wires!!
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Only one wire connection reused to the existing 6 way connector to the old westie charger - for the 'prong' indication on the control I presume. Don't know what the other wires were for? (except the battery link)

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Rear of charger, the original power plug fitted ok so didn't need any of the adapters provided.

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Front connections
Grey wire is the temp sensor connected to the neg terminal of the leisure batteries. (that's one of the unused connections on the 6way connection presumably!)
Battery connections, two positive connections and two sets of leads provided with the kit.
ArcticMatt suggests the extra one is for the vehicle battery connection. I have left mine off for the moment. Is it needed?
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Leisure batteries connections. 25Amp fuse to the positive. FraRon recommended fused connection.

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The offending blown fuse on the original charger. All the electronics looked in good condition so couldn't see an obvious failure and couldn't find anyone willing to look at it. Probably would have cost as much as replacing with the FraRon anyway (210 Euros including shipping- 7 days)
 
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FraRon Installation. Now installed and working. Prong indication works on the control panel. Fan is a little noisy but probably no worse than the fridge running. In the end was fairly easy except for finding the correct (yellow tag) connectors for the thicker battery wires!!
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Only one wire connection reused to the existing 6 way connector to the old westie charger - for the 'prong' indication on the control I presume. Don't know what the other wires were for? (except the battery link)

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Rear of charger, the original power plug fitted ok so didn't need any of the adapters provided.

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Front connections
Grey wire is the temp sensor connected to the neg terminal of the leisure batteries. (that's one of the unused connections on the 6way connection presumably!)
Battery connections, two positive connections and two sets of leads provided with the kit.
ArcticMatt suggests the extra one is for the vehicle battery connection. I have left mine off for the moment. Is it needed?
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Leisure batteries connections. 25Amp fuse to the positive. FraRon recommended fused connection.

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The offending blown fuse on the original charger. All the electronics looked in good condition so couldn't see an obvious failure and couldn't find anyone willing to look at it. Probably would have cost as much as replacing with the FraRon anyway (210 Euros including shipping- 7 days)
Will you be willing to sell the original unit?


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bxl_lad

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Just had our charger blow after a spillage in the van. Went with a loud pop and smell of burning plastic... yay!
Anyway have ordered a Fraron to be shipped to the campsite here in france tomorrow.
I've limited tools, what am I going to need (minimum) to get this fitted in a field repair?
I think the original philips is repairable, but that will have to wait...
 
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As a quick get going job I would assume just a pair of snips and strippers, some tape and cable ties?
 
ArcticMatt

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Bin the old charger. Its a ticking time bomb. Once the new one is in leave it there. Its got dual output too so I hooked it up to the starter battery too.
 
Wayne rocco

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Posidrive screwdriver, crimp connectors for the larger cables (5mm2?) crimp tool. I also inserted a 25A fuse holder and fuse as Fraron recommended. Plus suitable sized spanner for the battery connections!
2 weeks later the fridge controller also packed up (coincidence??) another £175! (from Penguin refridgeration)
 
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Ok, have the unit. A couple of urgent questions. Some switch settings on the Fraron (see pic), which do I need for this battery (see other pic).
Cheers!

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bxl_lad

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Have gone with 'Gel' and 13.5 float. Did some googling on this battery and it that seems to be the case...
Have flicked the switch and seems we're back online! Screen shows the prong and the battery charge is rising. It's true about the fan but think it will be mostly muffled by the covers.
Have seen already the phase move from 'bulk' to 'absorption', so I think all is good...
Fingers crossed no more troubles on this trip!
Cheers all for your input :thumb:D
 
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