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Kemper-van

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However…I’ve also now bought the Thule storm kit and that always gets fitted, unless it’s dead calm and I’m not leaving it unattended! At which point the weights (or pegs, whichever used) on the legs are more there just to stop me accidentally kicking the leg out after a few beers…


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Have been wondering about the Thule storm kit too. Question I have though, is whether there would we a big difference between the thule kit vs fitting additional (spare) tent guy ropes through the top of the awning legs?

In the end, the guy ropes are also used (& succeed) to keep whole tents & awnings down, so not sure why the thule kit includes springs etc. Anyone that can share some insight?
 
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There is a Brandrup tie down kit which seems more like just tent guy ropes, and slots into the kador channel. Not sure if that has springs (I’m presuming not).

Where a tent is pegged down and tensioned from multiple angles, the awning is essentially hinged along one edge and presents a big flat surface area for the wind to get under.

The springs (which are pretty stiff) provide just a little bit of give to absorb gusts, which may take the strain off the awning itself. The Thule one is pretty meaty though - I’m sure it would be enough to anchor the Titanic!


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Springs just allow a bit of give, so will ease the strain on the awning / awning mounts in strong winds.
 
Kemper-van

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Springs just allow a bit of give, so will ease the strain on the awning / awning mounts in strong winds.
I agree, but in my opinion, tent guy ropes also have some ‘give’ in them.

I need to take a look at the brandrup ones vs thule vs tent guy ropes. For those last ones, I was thinking of securing the awning leg by guiding 1 rope through the opening of the leg, and then secure it with 2 pegs on both sides of the leg: one in front of the leg, one on the side. This would secure 1 leg on 3 positions in 3 directions. Not sure if my description is clear though…
 
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I agree, but in my opinion, tent guy ropes also have some ‘give’ in them.

I need to take a look at the brandrup ones vs thule vs tent guy ropes. For those last ones, I was thinking of securing the awning leg by guiding 1 rope through the opening of the leg, and then secure it with 2 pegs on both sides of the leg: one in front of the leg, one on the side. This would secure 1 leg on 3 positions in 3 directions. Not sure if my description is clear though…
If the weather conditions mean normal guy ropes aren’t going to keep the awning on the ground, then the awning is not going to be a pleasant place to sit out and there will be so much flapping it won’t support a good night of sleep. You might as well roll it in and go to the pub.

You need to secure the awning, but it’s not important what you do it with.
 
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There is another difficulty with directly pegging the awning feet.
The hard standing on Camping Club sites is often ballast laid on a plastic grid under. Once you have a peg through that it is almost impossible to withdraw it. I have had to take a hacksaw to one to free the leg.
A decent claw hammer will always get a peg out.
 
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I take a club hammer but not a claw hammer as well. But even so I'm surprised a claw hammer would fit between the leg and the peg. My experience attempting to lever out pegs suggest that even a claw hammer may not have the leverage to shift a peg in that position.
Not tried it though, have you?
Yes, claw hammer no problem. Once the peg starts to come out you may need a block of wood to get the right purchase for the final pull. Never failed so far.
 
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Springs just allow a bit of give, so will ease the strain on the awning / awning mounts in strong winds.
Springs allow a bit of give so that the peg won‘t be slowly be pulled out.
An awning can catch a lot more wind acting as a sail compared to a closed tent. A guy rope would be useful but not as strong holding such greater wind power acting on an awning vs. a closed off tent.
 
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Springs allow a bit of give so that the peg won‘t be slowly be pulled out.
An awning can catch a lot more wind acting as a sail compared to a closed tent. A guy rope would be useful but not as strong holding such greater wind power acting on an awning vs. a closed off tent.
It would depend on the orientation of the Awning to the wind.
If the leading edge is above the cassette., Yes, but if below possibly not.
 
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I sometimes use this, although its not peg free.
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Not my fingers. It was a pic dragged off the web.
 
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At last, a method of holding down the awning without pegs.
Having looked longingly at the cast iron weights in the professional markets to hold down the legs of their awnings I was shaken by the price. But then found a much cheaper (er, more economic option) on the internet.
We have been here at Canterbury for a couple of days and they seem to be working well and fulfilling their function.
They are heavy (concrete clad in plastic) but easy to store in the van and to carry around. They are not huge either. They were incredibly easy to fitView attachment 82938View attachment 82937View attachment 82937View attachment 82937View attachment 82937View attachment 82937View attachment 82937View attachment 82937
So far feeling chuffed with them.
Nice set up - just wondering where you got the additional small and large table?
 
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Good question! We were given the little table as a gift ( for the essential role of drinks table). It probably came from a camping shop as it folds down to a block 4”x4”x 12” approx and comes in a nice little canvas bag just the right shape as long as you have folded the table properly, if not much swearing takes place as it is a tight fit.
The big white table also came from a camping shop, sorry I forget where, we have had both a long time.
The drinks table is very fiddly and takes longer to put up than the big table but as long as you do them in the right order you can put your glass on the big table until the little one is ready! Priorities!
 
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There is another difficulty with directly pegging the awning feet.
The hard standing on Camping Club sites is often ballast laid on a plastic grid under. Once you have a peg through that it is almost impossible to withdraw it. I have had to take a hacksaw to one to free the leg.
Always found a Tent Peg puller did the job over 50 odd years of pulling them out, even ones left by previous site users.
Usually just use a big wire type peg inverted to pull other pegs out.

 
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Always found a Tent Peg puller did the job over 50 odd years of pulling them out, even ones left by previous site users.
Usually just use a big wire type peg inverted to pull other pegs out.


I was about to post the same, I've never failed to get a peg out with the puller and if the peg is really stubborn, you have the option of putting a longer lever through the puller handle although I don't think I've ever needed to do that.

Also, as above though, if it's windy I normally wind the awning in, no point waking up worrying about it as the wind picks up in the night.
 
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Always found a Tent Peg puller did the job over 50 odd years of pulling them out, even ones left by previous site users.
Usually just use a big wire type peg inverted to pull other pegs out.

Interesting. I normally have no problem pulling out pegs without a peg puller, although it looks an interesting bit of kit. The only place I experience difficulty is some Camping Club hardstandings where they have a rigid plastic sheet under the ballast. Looking at the number of other pegs left in these areas I'm not the only one. Hence my weights. Quick, easy, clean and adequate (although they did cost a bit more than a peg puller!)
 
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Currently at an undisclosed CAMC site in Scotland. No way there’s any rock peg on Earth going into this hardstanding, let alone worrying about getting it out again! Three corners of the shelter pegged down on the grass, weights holding the last one. Vindicated!

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Currently at an undisclosed CAMC site in Scotland. No way there’s any rock peg on Earth going into this hardstanding, let alone worrying about getting it out again! Three corners of the shelter pegged down on the grass, weights holding the last one. Vindicated!

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Never had a problem on CAMC pitches with a gravel hardstanding area, using quality rock pegs.
 

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