The current bellows is 3 Layers, grey out side, cream inside that has been laminated to the grey with a waterproof membrane. If you look at the videos of the T7 concept, it also has a poptop that is grey outside and cream inside.
Not from the factory, but unsure if @flying banana has either a replacement bellows or a newer vehicle than the one listed in their profile. The 02S on a 6.1 is very dark inside, that bellows doesn't look like that, unless that's an earlier bellows (01S?!) fitted to a T6.
Think you’d be on a hiding to nothing, VW would expect the dealer to provide proof prior to them approving any warranty repair/replacement.
Was that even a "recall" though, or an advice note to deal with vehicles as and when they appear in the network, as opposed to seeking them out?
That is why I have suggested to Adrian that approval to use a waterproofing agent should be on a case by case basis after the customer provides photographic evidence that their bellows leak.
As you say wasn’t a true recall as they are for safety issues but was for an inspection at next service, so depending on your service regime could have been 2 years! In my case it was inspected and a fix was scheduled and subsequently cancelled by VW and rebooked for a workshop in Scotland (I live in Sussex) ……… I sold the Cali before it was ever fixed. Roughly 2 years between identifying issue to date for fix.
I suspect the problem may "start" with water absorbancy of the new fabric, which increases the potential for water penetration at the seams.
It's t6 2016 8byr old original so think that makes them 02 version . It came fairly suddenly in massive bad weather. I still slept upstairs and left the roof up. Hard core. I've removed the bellows bungee today. Camped at wasdale and now all dried out.
I think yours is pre-02S, whatever came before that. the 02S is dark inside and out. T6 bellows I think were a much paler grey. Interesting (but expected) that even the "bombproof" earlier bellows have a breaking point.
Daytime pic dried out.
A dry daylight pic. It's original too the van 2016 same as profile . I'd like new bellows as snicked the leaky side in scissors. But darent change them now. Bellows bungee removed
All i can say is...you may well have a lovely dry van with bellows that don't leak, but i would rather have my huge bank loan, digital dash and built in shower/roof any day.
It was a “ Workshop “ Recall. To be actioned on next Workshop visit.
That's not the info from VW who specifically say the 03S/04S is 2 layer and the MV Concept will have a 3 layer design. The seams are noticeably different and the fabric looks thicker.
The grey outside and cream fabric inside can't be 2 layer as the layers would be separate.
The two layers are definitely laminated together somehow, I suspect there is a membrane between the two as neither material looks like it's waterproof and I think the bellows are breathable as we don't get any condensation on them, so I suppose technically they are probably 3 layer?
I would be more worried about the huge wraparound window leaking on the California Concept!
No matter what the naysayers comment I'm just waiting for the Order Book to open, and if it is still a Plug-in Hybrid. I'll be going for the Petrol.I would be more worried about the huge wraparound window leaking on the California Concept!
Anyone going to ‘dip their toe in’ and be the first to test it?
Let’s hope so!No matter what the naysayers comment I'm just waiting for the Order Book to open, and if it is still a Plug-in Hybrid. I'll be going for the Petrol.
It should all be OK after the real world testing on the T6.1.
The California Concept is not a full EV . That is still a long way off.
I thought VW were planning to make a Buzz based EV Cali, but that was shelved as it would be too heavy. Also, I haven’t heard that they plan to make a Transit based Cali.
That’s my understanding too. Pretty sure a fully electric version will be way beyond 2025.
This is going to be the problem, anyone on this site taking delivery on a T7 will be tempted to spray their new bellows to prove to themselves they’re watertight. This will not bode well!I would be more worried about the huge wraparound window leaking on the California Concept!
Anyone going to ‘dip their toe in’ and be the first to test it?
Yeah was meant to be based off the buzz. Didn’t realise it had been scraped but did know currently the buzz cargo has a 700kg payload which is low.
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