Poll: What discount did you get on a T6 Cali?

[CoboCali]

+1. I learned from @daveyboydanger also, its easy, it works, saved me £750, dont miss out.

 

[BogdanViziteu]

12% off here in romania


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[2into1]

I think the supply and demand arguments works with existing stock, but not (currently) for orders.

My logic? Unless we establish for sure that each dealer has a limited quota, then each dealer's capacity to supply is as infinite as the number of order pads they have. The fact that the lead times go out and out (and out!), doesn't impact their ability to take an order.

Whatever the lead time the factory is quoting, Dealer A still wants your order as much as Dealer B so will continue to compete as before.

There is a supply and demand question but it's between VW HQ and their individual Country HQ's and the transfer pricing systems and quotas they operate. I guess those agreements take a long time to change, even though the (Cali) factory is clearly oversold.

 

[Geezso]

I think the supply and demand arguments works with existing stock, but not (currently) for orders.

My logic? Unless we establish for sure that each dealer has a limited quota, then each dealer's capacity to supply is as infinite as the number of order pads they have. The fact that the lead times go out and out (and out!), doesn't impact their ability to take an order.

Whatever the lead time the factory is quoting, Dealer A still wants your order as much as Dealer B so will continue to compete as before.

There is a supply and demand question but it's between VW HQ and their individual Country HQ's and the transfer pricing systems and quotas they operate. I guess those agreements take a long time to change, even though the (Cali) factory is clearly oversold.

Each dealer gets 12 per year, as standard. Some delays could be that a dealer has over ordered that year and needs to pick from next years order, so build may not be taken from that years allocation.

 

[Geezso]

I will get straight onto this Monday. Many thanks. you may have saved me 750!

That's not how it works as the finance company will claw it back from the dealer upon a settled agreement, sounds like he was more interested in his commission cheque. Also double check any early settlement charges.

 

[Teejay]

Each dealer gets 12 per year, as standard. Some delays could be that a dealer has over ordered that year and needs to pick from next years order, so build may not be taken from that years allocation.

Hmm, yet I've spoken to two who gave me a figure of 25 at least for 2016.

 

[Teejay]

That's not how it works as the finance company will claw it back from the dealer upon a settled agreement, sounds like he was more interested in his commission cheque. Also double check any early settlement charges.

Read this seems like many have paid it off without penalty.
http://vwcaliforniaclub.com/threads/vw-just-gave-me-£-750-00-towards-my-deposit.12497/#post-124458

 

[Geezso]

Read this seems like many have paid it off without penalty.
http://vwcaliforniaclub.com/threads/vw-just-gave-me-£-750-00-towards-my-deposit.12497/#post-124458

I never said there was a penalty. My point was that the dealer wants you to take finance to satisfy their commission come pay day. As if you pay off early the finance company claw back the £750 from dealer.

 

[Geezso]

Hmm, yet I've spoken to two who gave me a figure of 25 at least for 2016.

I said 12 as standard.

That's two posts you haven't read properly Teabag

 

[Teejay]

I said 12 as standard.

That's two posts you haven't read properly Teabag

You could be right it is still early.

 

[2into1]

Each dealer gets 12 per year.

I know there has been speculation about a quota system but you sound very certain. How do you know?

I reckon Guy at Lancaster has sold more than 12 to members who've posted here, never mind the ones who aren't members.

 

[Geezso]

I know there has been speculation about a quota system but you sound very certain. How do you know?

I reckon Guy at Lancaster has sold more than 12 to members who've posted here, never mind the ones who aren't members.

I was told 12, some dealer groups may concentrate 3 or 4 sites toward one specialist so Guy may get 48 new units for example.

 

[calimera]

I will get straight onto this Monday. Many thanks. you may have saved me 750!

Morning
Speak directly to VW finance about this . We were told by them we could end our deal within 14 days cooling off period.
One dealer told us wait 6 mths. Guy at Preston said allow a few days so the dealer receives the money from VW. We waited a week & paid a small interest charge.

https://www.vwfinance.co.uk/en/privatecustomers/manage_agreement/ending_agreement_early.html

 

[Geezso]

I hate to say it, but if someone gets the deal of a lifetime, on finance then cancels the finance. The next customer wont get as good a deal due to the initial persons greed. As the dealer has to cover the loss.

 

[2into1]

I was told 12, some dealer groups may concentrate 3 or 4 sites toward one specialist so Guy may get 48 new units for example.

Just feels like rumour and speculation. I feel we'd know much more about a quota system if one was actually in operation. The lead times have drifted out in too linear a fashion to feel like some annual quota had just been exceeded. Happy to learn the facts if someone knows them.

 

[daveyboydanger]

I hate to say it, but if someone gets the deal of a lifetime, on finance then cancels the finance. The next customer wont get as good a deal due to the initial persons greed. As the dealer has to cover the loss.

It's not greed to get the best deal, it's good use of the money you have. It's not cheating. It's not hurting someone else. It's totally within the rules of what they allow. I've ordered two vans from the same dealer within the space of 10months. My second deal wasn't worse because I got a good first deal. I don't think it works like that at all.

 

[Geezso]

It's not greed to get the best deal, it's good use of the money you have. It's not cheating. It's not hurting someone else. It's totally within the rules of what they allow. I've ordered two vans from the same dealer within the space of 10months. My second deal wasn't worse because I got a good first deal. I don't think it works like that at all.

Someone else obviously took up the slack as the £750 comes from somewhere fact.

 

[daveyboydanger]

Someone else obviously took up the slack as the £750 comes from somewhere fact.

How do they pick who takes up the slack?

 

[Geezso]

How do they pick who takes up the slack?

Don't know what there is to disagree with. But the fact that 750 has disappeared the next one may be 4% discount. If they buy they buy.
There is no selection process, that would be ridiculous.
It needs to be balanced in some way.

 

[daveyboydanger]

Don't know what there is to disagree with. But the fact that 750 has disappeared the next one may be 4% discount. If they buy they buy.
There is no selection process, that would be ridiculous.
It needs to be balanced in some way.

I disagreed with what you said and so I pressed disagree. I then explained why.
I agree that some people won't get as good a discount but that is down to which dealer they choose and how hard they bargain. It feels like you're trying to make people who take advantage of the discount or drive a bargain feel guilty. That's what I disagree with. You previously stated you don't like to bargain. That's ok. I do.That's ok too.

 

[Geezso]

I disagreed with what you said and so I pressed disagree. I then explained why.
I agree that some people won't get as good a discount but that is down to which dealer they choose and how hard they bargain. It feels like you're trying to make people who take advantage of the discount or drive a bargain feel guilty. That's what I disagree with. You previously stated you don't like to bargain. That's ok. I do.That's ok too.

If you cancel and pay off a finance agreement the deposit contribution is debited from the dealer. They are now 750 down, you tell me where they get it since you obviously know some insider information that your not willing to share.
I believe I've stated a fact in that, so you cant really disagree unless you know different.
I stated I like a deal previously but to trawl multiple places to get the cheapest price isn't for me. I value my family time too much. Its like the people I know who shop across 7 shops to save a little.
So I tend just to buy things, if I cant afford it I will go without. if that makes me adverse to a bargain, so be it.

 

[daveyboydanger]

If you cancel and pay off a finance agreement the deposit contribution is debited from the dealer. They are now 750 down, you tell me where they get it since you obviously know some insider information that your not willing to share.
I believe I've stated a fact in that, so you cant really disagree unless you know different.

No secrecy or insider info! As I've said previously (if you read back through the threads) my dealer asked me to wait a few days before I paid my finance off. That meant that the dealer didn't lose out on the £750 and I still saved it.
I assume that the finance company takes the hit as I didn't and neither did the dealer.

 

[Geezso]

No secrecy or insider info! As I've said previously (if you read back through the threads) my dealer asked me to wait a few days before I paid my finance off. That meant that the dealer didn't lose out on the £750 and I still saved it.
I assume that the finance company takes the hit as I didn't and neither did the dealer.

The dealer does take it hit. My initial point was the salesman wont as he gets his commission and dealer loses out

 

[daveyboydanger]

The dealer does take it hit. My initial point was the salesman wont as he gets his commission and dealer loses out

My dealer asked me to wait a few days so the dealership doesn't take a hit. That's what he chatted to his manager about when I asked whether I could pay off quickly.
Have you actually done this process or are you just guessing how it plays out?

 

[snowy55]

We have purchased 1 Vw car and 2 Vw commercial vehicles in the last 5 years, each time claiming a generous "deposit contribution " Taking out minimal finance with Vw and 3 times paying it off as soon as possible.
Not against the rules and nobody has died.