service costs oil change

[tobydogplaystation]

hi just been quoted £410 for a oil change visual check and mot what's everyone's thoughts?

Paid £375 for first service and “free” inspection. Legalised robbery.

 

[rod_vw]

Over the past twenty years I have had the following new, 1xT4, 3xT5 & 1xT6, did all the services and repairs myself except a cam belt and waterpump on the T4 and similar on the T6. Where necessary genuine parts were used to maintain the warranty.
I'll leave you to calculate how much I saved.

 

[Dill Tart]

Over the past twenty years I have had the following new, 1xT4, 3xT5 & 1xT6, did all the services and repairs myself except a cam belt and waterpump on the T4 and similar on the T6. Where necessary genuine parts were used to maintain the warranty.
I'll leave you to calculate how much I saved.

I do the same, cost has gone up a bit for oil & filters but still considerably lower cost than a VW dealer.

 

[pjm-84]

Hope you got your 10% off!

But it depends on the service pack offering. I've paid something like £370 for two services on the Cali , one major / one minor. The only thing is the major doesn't include the fuel filter.

Volvo wanted £550 for a service on the xc70....2.5hr, most of it on the PITA pollen filter, £140 in parts and job was done. I accidentally bought 2 lots of service items so a quick 90min this year and the minor service completed.

 

[Defender90]

Well just had it serviced at my local garage they used genuine vw parts and excellent service

Engine oil £38.88p
Oil filter. £40.44p genuine part
Air filter. £25.26
Cabin filter £14.76
Mot £40
Service £90

All in £249.34

 

[pjm-84]

Crumbs....expensive filter.

Just changed the oil in my CRF1000. 1400miles old and it was like new..... (its had some abuse off road so I thought better safe than sorry). Filter was cheap but its the one to go for, the oil is also the one to go for, but wow...expensive. Never seen so much oil come out of a motorbike

 

[Vagophile]

All in £249.34

Some questionable costs in there. An oil filter that costs more than 7 litres of oil? (Asssuming 7 litre engine oil capacity) What brand of oil sells for £5.60/litre?
Owned my first car in 1966 and have never had a garage oil change/service. The most difficult part nowadays is disposing of the waste oil. And remember when you fitted a replacement copper sump washer costing 5p as opposed to a complete plug costing £3.30?

 

[Defender90]

Crumbs....expensive filter.

Just changed the oil in my CRF1000. 1400miles old and it was like new..... (its had some abuse off road so I thought better safe than sorry). Filter was cheap but it’s the one to go for, the oil is also the one to go for, but wow...expensive. Never seen so much oil come out of a motorbike

It’s a Vw part it has one year left on the warranty so worth putting genuine part on,but we’ll spotted the cabin filter is the oil filter and the oil filter is the pollen filter the guy in the garage put the wrong prices against these two lol
So genuine oil filter is £
14.67

 

[pjm-84]

Lol....that's more like it...I think I pay £12 for a Volvo one, which is probably very similar.

 

[Vagophile]

See #28 above. Mahle filters are original equipment on some marques, so still £5 more for what is possibly the same filter.

 

[atk13]

hi just been quoted £410 for a oil change visual check and mot what's everyone's thoughts?

I was told by the local VW van centre / garage they charge £170 per hour. At those rates it’s not surprising. Independents for me.


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[johns6809]

My wife has a very lightly used Mazda Cx30. It went for it's second service last week. 2 years old and only 1200 miles on it! £385! They then had the brass neck to suggest the front discs and pads should be changed due to some surface rust due to lack of use. £500.

 

[Defender90]

It’s a Vw part it has one year left on the warranty so worth putting genuine part on

Some questionable costs in there. An oil filter that costs more than 7 litres of oil? (Asssuming 7 litre engine oil capacity) What brand of oil sells for £5.60/litre?
Owned my first car in 1966 and have never had a garage oil change/service. The most difficult part nowadays is disposing of the waste oil. And remember when you fitted a replacement copper sump washer costing 5p as opposed to a complete plug costing £3.30?

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Some questionable costs in there. An oil filter that costs more than 7 litres of oil? (Asssuming 7 litre engine oil capacity) What brand of oil sells for £5.60/litre?
Owned my first car in 1966 and have never had a garage oil change/service. The most difficult part nowadays is disposing of the waste oil. And remember when you fitted a replacement copper sump washer costing 5p as opposed to a complete plug costing £3.30?

My wife has a very lightly used Mazda Cx30. It went for it's second service last week. 2 years old and only 1200 miles on it! £385! They then had the brass neck to suggest the front discs and pads should be changed due to some surface rust due to lack of use. £500.

Unreal ,i think people should stop using these overpriced main dealers going forward they are going to struggle less new cars getting bought and more people will be hanging onto older vehicles,also the ev vehicles don’t need the level of servicing so they will be looking for ways to make up the short fall.

 

[Ozzy Pete]

I guess you have to balance the indy vs franchise routes. In warranty I'd always say go franchise, it protects you more and removes any wiggle room if something goes wrong. Out of warranty a good indy can be cheaper, but a good franchise can be more beneficial in the long run.

All that said, 410 seems a little steep and the @pjm-84 recommendation for a service plan a sound one. 55 quid of that is the MOT, so it's 360. They haven't tacked on air con or brakes have they, which is a trend nowadays? Their national prices are below, so there is a discrepancy of about 75 quid.

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If you find a good independent garage and ask them to service the vehicle using VW parts there shouldn’t be any wiggle room.

 

[dspuk]

If you find a good independent garage and ask them to service the vehicle using VW parts there shouldn’t be any wiggle room.

Technically (and legally) correct, thanks to block exemption. As long as OEM parts are used and the service carried out to OEM standards, legally anyone can do a service. The latter point though is where OEM's can complain and say they did not carry out to the right standards in case of a warranty claim related to the area serviced.

Example - After a local indy services your car changing the oil and filter your engine seizes, leaks or has any other related issue. The OEM for sure will pushback and say that the issue was caused due to the service standard, or them being unable to verify, rightly or wrongly.

Personally, in warranty I'll always use an OEM dealer and take the hit, but having ran an OEM warranty team, I know the deal. Hence why I always use a service plan.

 

[Ozzy Pete]

But surely if something serious happens like a siezed engine or a serious leak then you would take it up with the garage that did the work.
Even a main dealer can cock up and they will try and put the onus on you.
Not all independent garages are rogues …

 

[dspuk]

But surely if something serious happens like a siezed engine or a serious leak then you would take it up with the garage that did the work.
Even a main dealer can cock up and they will try and put the onus on you.
Not all independent garages are rogues …

Never said they were. Just pointing out how an OEM could frame it. You could end up with two garages pointing fingers at each other for the sake of a few pennies on a 70K investment. After warranty, I'd be looking for a good reputable indy.

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

I have used an independent mercedes specialist since my mercedes was new, the independent has the mercedes software and diagnostics and access to the digital service records, it needed warranty work which mercedes UK authorised without issue

 

[dspuk]

I have used an independent mercedes specialist since my mercedes was new, the independent has the mercedes software and diagnostics and access to the digital service records, it needed warranty work which mercedes UK authorised without issue

I think the key point here is "independent mercedes specialist" rather than just an independent.

Again, I'm not saying anyone can't or shouldn't, I just saying IF there is an issue RELATED to the work an independent carried out, even loosely, there MAY be challenges.

 

[Velma's Dad]

A lot of the indys are owned and run by techs who learnt their job at the dealership. I'd reckon the guys at my local one (Revolution VW near Amersham) know more about what they're doing than a lot of the youngsters at the dealership.

The other day my van got an MOT advisory for wishbone rear bushes but the guys at Revolution told me not to bother to replace those yet they're fine, despite what the MOT guys say, and he showed me while the van was on the lift.

I'm sure the dealer techs would have been similarly honest, of course...

My van is long since out of warranty so I just want a proper job done without paying inflated prices.

 

[Ozzy Pete]

We have a 2020 focus ST line and we took out a Ford Protect extra warranty which is a bargain at just over £200. I phoned them to clarify what garage I needed to take it to to make sure the warranty would be honoured and was told that I didn’t even have to specify OEM parts they could be parts that the VAT registered garage usually uses.Although I did ask them to use OEM parts just in case. With 3 spark plugs at £80 I’m sure I could have saved myself a good few quid using equivalent parts.

 

[dspuk]

We have a 2020 focus ST line and we took out a Ford Protect extra warranty which is a bargain at just over £200. I phoned them to clarify what garage I needed to take it to to make sure the warranty would be honoured and was told that I didn’t even have to specify OEM parts they could be parts that the VAT registered garage usually uses.Although I did ask them to use OEM parts just in case. With 3 spark plugs at £80 I’m sure I could have saved myself a good few quid using equivalent parts.

Block Exemption does say they don't need to be OEM parts, just parts of a comparable quality. In the 80s and 90's OEM's ran an absolute racket with parts and servicing restrictions and BE was the answer to that.

 

[WelshGas]

But surely if something serious happens like a siezed engine or a serious leak then you would take it up with the garage that did the work.
Even a main dealer can cock up and they will try and put the onus on you.
Not all independent garages are rogues …

But VW give a 2yr Warranty on their work be it a repair or a service. How many Independents do?

 

[WelshGas]

I have used an independent mercedes specialist since my mercedes was new, the independent has the mercedes software and diagnostics and access to the digital service records, it needed warranty work which mercedes UK authorised without issue

So basically a Franchise, and I'm sure they had to pay Mercedes to offer those services.

 

[Velma's Dad]

But VW give a 2yr Warranty on their work be it a repair or a service. How many Independents do?

That's true but at the same time do you really, really need a warranty on an oil and filter change? If they'd some something identifiably stupid like (struggling to think of one...) okay, not done up the sump plug properly and it fell out, you'd know about it pretty soon.

I guess it all comes down to how much folks are prepared to pay for whatever gives them peace of mind and that's always an individual thing. Personally I'm very happy to use a long established business I believe is competent and reliable regardless of whose badge is above the door and what it says on the paperwork. I can understand that others see it differently, sometimes based on happy/unhappy experiences.