So who was it doing 112mph on A30 this afternoon?

[Cwoods1405]

It saddens me that instead of slating the idiot doing 112mph right up the backside of another vehicle it is quickly turned against the Police. If it were your loved ones in the vehicle being followed i would anticipate a different view!!! I hope the driver gets a lengthy ban and good on the cops for posting it. A gentle reminder there are still cops about and possibly deter other from doing the same! As for anonimity the driver will end up in court which is a public forum and no doubt the local news will print it. Rant over!

 

[T6 CFO]

It saddens me that instead of slating the idiot doing 112mph right up the backside of another vehicle it is quickly turned against the Police. If it were your loved ones in the vehicle being followed i would anticipate a different view!!! I hope the driver gets a lengthy ban and good on the cops for posting it. A gentle reminder there are still cops about and possibly deter other from doing the same! As for anonimity the driver will end up in court which is a public forum and no doubt the local news will print it. Rant over!

For the record my post was more an observation that it was probably a legitimate person as I did a quick bit of research (put his name in google) to find out.
To some extent I agree but I think we all know doing 112mph on an A road is wrong and doing that sort of speed is going to attract attention sooner rather than later. I don't know if he he is doing this off his own bat, if he is it is somewhat dangerous and easy to back fire. I'm all for using social media but I'm not quite so sure if it's a good idea for police officers to be randomly posting on twitter. I shall reserve judgement until I know the facts.


Mike

 

[GrannyJen]

A lot of police forces use twitter as a public interface to show what they are doing.

I get regular Tweets from Sussex constabulary and find a lot of it interesting. The public face of policing in the modern era.

 

[sidepod]

A lot of police forces use twitter as a public interface to show what they are doing.

I get regular Tweets from Sussex constabulary and find a lot of it interesting. The public face of policing in the modern era.

Yes via their PR dept.

Police officers are not there to pass judgement or opinion but to bring criminals to court. The magistrates will do the rest.

Nobody is condoning the drivers actions at all.

If a policeman is happy to publicly voice his opinion like this then I'm not all together sure we could rely on his impartiality.

 

[Loz]

Police officers are not there to pass judgement or opinion but to bring criminals to court. The magistrates will do the rest.

Yes I agree, he has pre-judged the conviction and the driver may not get a disqualification, depends on the mitigation supplied.

 

[potem]

I wonder how many who object to publicity about those who break the criminal law in cars also object to reporting of burglars getting arrested ((before conviction) or terrorist suspects getting arrested..(Over 3 times as many people were killed in car smashes last year in the UK than were murdered.)

 

[Stoneybroke]

Yes I agree, he has pre-judged the conviction and the driver may not get a disqualification, depends on the mitigation supplied.

There is some precedent here where people are identified via social media post-charge, but pre-court with a #-tag indicating guilt:-
https://informationrightsandwrongs....ersial-naming-drink-drivers-twitter-campaign/

However in the A30 case no person is directly identified, merely the vehicle model and speed, any further identification will have to wait for the Court case (unless someone who knows them saw them being spoken to)

Sentencing rules are such that Disqualification is a probability as speed limit was allegedly exceeded by over the 30mph threshold.

 

[Loz]

There is some precedent here where people are identified via social media post-charge, but pre-court with a #-tag indicating guilt:-
https://informationrightsandwrongs....ersial-naming-drink-drivers-twitter-campaign/

However in the A30 case no person is directly identified, merely the vehicle model and speed, any further identification will have to wait for the Court case (unless someone who knows them saw them being spoken to)

Sentencing rules are such that Disqualification is a probability as speed limit was allegedly exceeded by over the 30mph threshold.

Yes, as is often the case with social media through the drivers own network of friends his identity might be exposed.

Sentencing depends on mitigation, I know from experience that it is not an automatic disqualification.

 

[soulstyledevon]

If a policeman is happy to publicly voice his opinion like this then I'm not all together sure we could rely on his impartiality.

Impartiality...???
He was doing 112mph.

Britain today

 

[johnv]

It saddens me that instead of slating the idiot doing 112mph right up the backside of another vehicle it is quickly turned against the Police. If it were your loved ones in the vehicle being followed i would anticipate a different view!!! I hope the driver gets a lengthy ban and good on the cops for posting it. A gentle reminder there are still cops about and possibly deter other from doing the same! As for anonimity the driver will end up in court which is a public forum and no doubt the local news will print it. Rant over!

surely this implies that the 'loved ones' in the vehicle in front were also doing 112mph?

 

[2into1]

surely this implies that the 'loved ones' in the vehicle in front were also doing 112mph?

"tailgating AND 112mph" not "tailgating AT 112mph". I guess he was spotted tailgating at legal speeds, then accelerated (and followed) up to 112mph once clear of traffic.

 

[CaliforniaBen]

I am not sure what all the fuss is about with cops using social media, I think it is a good idea and also it is no different to fly on the wall TV shows like Motorway cops etc??

 

[Loz]

I am not sure what all the fuss is about with cops using social media, I think it is a good idea and also it is no different to fly on the wall TV shows like Motorway cops etc??

Except the programs air after the court case..

 

[potem]

Except the programs air after the court case..

The news every day includes information from the police about incidents where people are stopped and/or arrested. In many cases the people involved can easily be identified. This includes cases where they are investigating whether there is any evidence at all indicating whether an offence has even been committed! Your local paper will include incidents where drivers have been stopped speeding including the make and colour of the vehicle involved.

 

[andyinluton]

The news every day includes information from the police about incidents where people are stopped and/or arrested. In many cases the people involved can easily be identified. This includes cases where they are investigating whether there is any evidence at all indicating whether an offence has even been committed! Your local paper will include incidents where drivers have been stopped speeding including the make and colour of the vehicle involved.

Yes but the papers don't announce what the sentence is before the trial. This motorist has been charged, found guilty and sentenced by the police.

What if this goes to court & unlikely as it seems can prove he was actually doing 69.999mph and that the police are wrong?

All our views on the guilt of this driver are lead by the totally biased view of the case as presented by the prosecution, we have not seen the case for the defence yet.

Having said that 112mph is a riduculas speed to be doing on that road.

 

[potem]

Yes but the papers don't announce what the sentence is before the trial. This motorist has been charged, found guilty and sentenced by the police.

What if this goes to court & unlikely as it seems can prove he was actually doing 69.999mph and that the police are wrong?

All our views on the guilt of this driver are lead by the totally biased view of the case as presented by the prosecution, we have not seen the case for the defence yet.

Having said that 112mph is a riduculas speed to be doing on that road.

I take your point. I have made the same one many times having spent 35 years as a criminal defence lawyer. It is the gripe of a lot of people who are arrested. What still astounds me is the support people get who wield several tons of metal dangerously at 100mph in a public place! The same rules should, in my opinion, apply to every alleged criminal. The fact he/she is in a car is irrelevant. Yet you don't hear many objecting to reading that a young man has been arrested (and identified) in relation to leaving a package on a train before he is even charged.
I will leave it here as this is not the forum for this and I have to focus on my own 2 tons of metal on wheels which is due to be built the week after next..........happy days are coming.

 

[jts46]

Did 167kmh on the A71 in France springtime

 

[andyinluton]

Did 167kmh on the A71 in France springtime

Doesn't count, everyone knows that whilst in some european countries there are no speed limits in some places & people can drive fast in safety. In this country doing 70.01mph on an empty motorway means kids are dying all over the place you are a danger to society as a whole & being hung drawn & quartered is insufficient punishment.

 

[Californiaman]

Excessive speed is rarely a problem. Its excessive speed in incorrect circumstances that is the issue. Speed is never really the problem, it is the sudden stop...

 

[potem]

Doesn't count, everyone knows that whilst in some european countries there are no speed limits in some places & people can drive fast in safety. In this country doing 70.01mph on an empty motorway means kids are dying all over the place you are a danger to society as a whole & being hung drawn & quartered is insufficient punishment.

I only return here in case someone is drawn by this post into a situation where their car is seized at the roadside in france for speeding and then auctioned off, or has their licence seized at the roadside and they receive an automatic 3 day ban

http://www.thegoodlifefrance.com/uk-drivers-warned-speeding-france/

 

[andyinluton]

That actually highlights the difference in attitude, 105mph on the motorway is still only a £90 fine - and before that you should have seen the sign that tells you there is a speed trap ahead & ignored all the motorists coming the other way flashing their lights to warn you.

 

[potem]

That actually highlights the difference in attitude, 105mph on the motorway is still only a £90 fine - and before that you should have seen the sign that tells you there is a speed trap ahead & ignored all the motorists coming the other way flashing their lights to warn you.

Or would if it were not for the pesky french gendarmes having specialist mobile units whose presence is not advertised and the first you know they are there is when you are pulled over at the next toll. Just not cricket. Check the law before you travel. No use whinging when they tell you leave your car behind. Nothing the French like more than annoying 'les rosbif'

 

[Amarillo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...cised-for-taking-a-selfie-during-m5-tailback/

The Chinese have developed a more hands on approach to dealing with people threatening to jump off bridges:

 

[soulstyledevon]

Excessive speed is rarely a problem. Its excessive speed in incorrect circumstances that is the issue. Speed is never really the problem, it is the sudden stop...

That's true.
I have took a couple of chances in the past, but only on quiet stretches of road. I didn't buy a car that tops out at 170mph just to pootle around town.
If your sensible, then why not

 

[Cwoods1405]

I think the best place for driving fast is on a track don't you! I don't want to be taken out by someone hammering along regardless of how safe they think it is.