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mpill990

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GB
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Grand California 680
I am joining this one a bit late but am now as confused as ever.
I accept Im a bit of a VW/VAG/PORSCHE group fan boy.
Currently in my 3rd California. ( 9 VW Transporters in total )
After buying far too many VW/ Porsche cars/vans/Californias to last any sane person a life time!
I saw a Grand Cali 680 online which I thought would scratch the current itch, 4M with diff lock.
The dealer I visited was very honest before we looked at the 21 plate GC that it needed some trim repairing and would be sorted and I am sure they would do all to put it right.
The interior was battered, I cant imagine how a vehicle with only 3k miles on it was so injured.
At least 3 of the multiple tiny cupboards would not open.
The hinge/bracket to hold up the main section of the bed was broken so I could not open the floor cupboards without using one arm to hold the bed up.
Electric step was removed as broken.
The shower hose as it came out of the sink looked like it had started to split/uncoil.
Loads of other marks/ scratches which really worries me about how these GC will look after a few years.

We drove away gutted as we had intended on buying if it was a good one and + £90k for a used VW needs to up its game.

Kev
We've had our 680 for over a year now and it still looks and functions like new.
You can break anything if you try hard enough or lack basic mechanical sympathy...

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kurienp

kurienp

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Newbury, Berkshire, UK
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T6 Ocean 204 4Motion
I am joining this one a bit late but am now as confused as ever.
I accept Im a bit of a VW/VAG/PORSCHE group fan boy.
Currently in my 3rd California. ( 9 VW Transporters in total )
After buying far too many VW/ Porsche cars/vans/Californias to last any sane person a life time!
I saw a Grand Cali 680 online which I thought would scratch the current itch, 4M with diff lock.
The dealer I visited was very honest before we looked at the 21 plate GC that it needed some trim repairing and would be sorted and I am sure they would do all to put it right.
The interior was battered, I cant imagine how a vehicle with only 3k miles on it was so injured.
At least 3 of the multiple tiny cupboards would not open.
The hinge/bracket to hold up the main section of the bed was broken so I could not open the floor cupboards without using one arm to hold the bed up.
Electric step was removed as broken.
The shower hose as it came out of the sink looked like it had started to split/uncoil.
Loads of other marks/ scratches which really worries me about how these GC will look after a few years.

We drove away gutted as we had intended on buying if it was a good one and + £90k for a used VW needs to up its game.

Kev
was this the one parked up at Breeze Poole? If yes, you can trust them to fix it up proper. Don't let its current state put you off.

If this was a rental, or a family with unruly kids, then it is nothing to do with VW build. It is how the owners have abused it.
 
Kevthegas

Kevthegas

2018 204ps
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West Sussex
Vehicle
T6 Ocean 204
was this the one parked up at Breeze Poole? If yes, you can trust them to fix it up proper. Don't let its current state put you off.

If this was a rental, or a family with unruly kids, then it is nothing to do with VW build. It is how the owners have abused it.
Hi yes it was.
The salesman was totally upfront about the state the van was in before we opened it up and assured us it would all be sorted and I did believe him, even after we said we would not be interested he still gave us loads of time and even offered a test drive. It really was a breath of fresh air to have a sales person who was not pushy.
I was surprised it felt a bit cheap! the cupboards felt/looked like Ikea units. And so many small units I think I would go mad looking for stuff.
Sorry to upset some owners, I am sure once you have one and look after it they will be great vans, just not for me.

Kev
 
soulstyledevon

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Hi yes it was.
The salesman was totally upfront about the state the van was in before we opened it up and assured us it would all be sorted and I did believe him, even after we said we would not be interested he still gave us loads of time and even offered a test drive. It really was a breath of fresh air to have a sales person who was not pushy.
I was surprised it felt a bit cheap! the cupboards felt/looked like Ikea units. And so many small units I think I would go mad looking for stuff.
Sorry to upset some owners, I am sure once you have one and look after it they will be great vans, just not for me.

Kev

Have a look at the Westfalia Columbus. A lot more interesting than a GC… ;)
 
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Dorset
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Grand California 680
Have a look at the Westfalia Columbus. A lot more interesting than a GC… ;)
Agreed the 601 and the 641D’s give the GC a run for the money but its horses for corses and what you want/need from a van. And as you give your opinion you must also recognise that the fiat has still a lot of catching up to do against the VW/Mann options. Even with its series 9.
 
GrannyJen

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Cali now sold
Agreed the 601 and the 641D’s give the GC a run for the money but its horses for corses and what you want/need from a van. And as you give your opinion you must also recognise that the fiat has still a lot of catching up to do against the VW/Mann options. Even with its series 9.

Yes, the Fiat does. Fortunately the price of the fiat is not yet catching up to the price of their illustrious competitors :shocked
 
GrannyJen

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Hi yes it was.
The salesman was totally upfront about the state the van was in before we opened it up and assured us it would all be sorted and I did believe him, even after we said we would not be interested he still gave us loads of time and even offered a test drive. It really was a breath of fresh air to have a sales person who was not pushy.
I was surprised it felt a bit cheap! the cupboards felt/looked like Ikea units. And so many small units I think I would go mad looking for stuff.
Sorry to upset some owners, I am sure once you have one and look after it they will be great vans, just not for me.

Kev

I tend to agree with you.

I could not have anything over 5.4m. You know my drive and the shape of it. With two cars and a caravan in it a camper has to shoehorn in and 5.4m is the biggest I can allow.

However I looked long and hard at 6m and was a little bit disappointed at the cheapo feel to some of the offerings on "prestigious" chassis. Comparatively my Ayers Rock, ok, on a noisy fiat running gear, feels agricultural but the living accommodation knocks spots of some of the other offerings, and a similar specced VW or Merc based offering would have left me digging into my purse for an extra £25k.

I would also say, thanks to a very sad circumstance, my noisy agricultural fiat was driven for 800 miles in 4 days and left me with no headaches, back aches or wallet aches despite also having a 1500kg caravan on the back for 400 of those 800 miles.

Horse for courses.
 
soulstyledevon

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Agreed the 601 and the 641D’s give the GC a run for the money but its horses for corses and what you want/need from a van. And as you give your opinion you must also recognise that the fiat has still a lot of catching up to do against the VW/Mann options. Even with its series 9.

Agree, the Fiat dash maybe not as pretty as VW.
But, the rest will be interesting and a close comparison.
The days of Volkswagen reliability are long gone and the major positive for the Fiat is the boxy design. Which pays dividends in maximising the internal space.
This was the most important factor on changing vans on this occasion.
 
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