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The Cadac Safari Grill does have a design flaw. The ignition electrode is quite exposed to damage and does not have a protective cage around it. It is possible to knock it when packing the cooker away or when setting it up.

This little electrode/ bit of wire is easily bent back in place though.

But when you see how well it cooks, it is an irrelevance. If one day you need to use a lighter, the quality of the cooking more than makes up for it.

I have just been in France with mine. Both the flat top and the griddle top cook superbly. It is having a lid that makes all the difference. Food cooks so much quicker and more evenly
 
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"Amarillo, post: 288793, member: 11232"]You can buy a quick release gas connector for the LP version. The legs won't fold in with it fitted, but just drill 1cm holes in legs 1 & 2 and it will fold up nicely.


No need for this now on later Cadacs as they come with a nice blue screw turner which is vey easy to use when connecting gas hose
This bbq is the best ever and agree it is the number one accessory for a campervan
 
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The party grill is a excellent (and cheaper) alternative! Also has a water section to collect the fat so its very easy cleaning, although, the cadac is also excellent! Think this one cost me about £65Screenshot_20180706-124817_Chrome.jpg
 
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A little update, Cadac have replaced my whole base unit. :D They asked me a few times if I had done a leak test on the new regulator, but as it was new to be honest I hadn't considered it faulty.

Their instructions also state to do a leak test if there is a leak, I made the point that as I didn't smell gas and heard no escape of gas I expected nothing. In our email exchange we discussed that a leak test should be carried out each time and its certainly something I will do every time from now on. I suggested their instructions should be amended.

A gas safe engineer colleague at work when discussing this said he is always surprised that we can just buy lpg etc. Apparently in a gas emergency the risk of LPG type gas igniting is twice that of natural gas, because it is heavier than air and sinks down so you are also unlikely to smell it. :eek:

Food for thought. Do those leak tests on your gas devices regularly :)
 
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A little update, Cadac have replaced my whole base unit. :D They asked me a few times if I had done a leak test on the new regulator, but as it was new to be honest I hadn't considered it faulty.

Their instructions also state to do a leak test if there is a leak, I made the point that as I didn't smell gas and heard no escape of gas I expected nothing. In our email exchange we discussed that a leak test should be carried out each time and its certainly something I will do every time from now on. I suggested their instructions should be amended.

A gas safe engineer colleague at work when discussing this said he is always surprised that we can just buy lpg etc. Apparently in a gas emergency the risk of LPG type gas igniting is twice that of natural gas, because it is heavier than air and sinks down so you are also unlikely to smell it. :eek:

Food for thought. Do those leak tests on your gas devices regularly :)
A couple of months ago there was a fire in the village I work, a gas bbq with faulty hose to blame lit up like a blowtorch, took out 2 1/2 houses. Scary.
 
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A little update, Cadac have replaced my whole base unit. :D They asked me a few times if I had done a leak test on the new regulator, but as it was new to be honest I hadn't considered it faulty.

Their instructions also state to do a leak test if there is a leak, I made the point that as I didn't smell gas and heard no escape of gas I expected nothing. In our email exchange we discussed that a leak test should be carried out each time and its certainly something I will do every time from now on. I suggested their instructions should be amended.

A gas safe engineer colleague at work when discussing this said he is always surprised that we can just buy lpg etc. Apparently in a gas emergency the risk of LPG type gas igniting is twice that of natural gas, because it is heavier than air and sinks down so you are also unlikely to smell it. :eek:

Food for thought. Do those leak tests on your gas devices regularly :)
Wow, only want a morning bacon butty!! How do you do leak test ls?
 
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You can use soapy water like you would on bike puncture, or you can buy a little aerosol of leak testing spray which I think I will opt for for ease of use.
 
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Our ignition stopped working after the first few uses. We use a gas lighter.


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Just bought one of these and worked ok when we tested it when it arrived. Just used it tonight for the first cooking session and the piezo wouldn’t work so had to use a lighter.

I’ve just been examining it and the piezo would produce a nice big fat spark if it was held near a metallic object, but would not work on the burner no matter how close I moved it. I suspected that the burner wasn’t earthing properly so unscrewed it and the bracket that held the electrode and gave it all a good scrape to make sure there was a good connection. This did no good and had me stumped, but I discovered that the electrode would spark to the burner if it wasn’t earthed! So I removed the banjo shaped earthing plate and replaced the burner and hey presto - success! See picture below, you can see the earthing plate has been swung to one side in case I need it in the future.

(The black nut is what the burner screws on to and appears to be made of some non conducting material.)

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A little update, Cadac have replaced my whole base unit. :D
That’s reassuring.

Before they did this, did you consider using the upper part of the Cadac on a normal gas burner (BBQ in the house!) or one of those cheap gas stoves £10 - 15?
 
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Thought this thread was the best place to ask so here goes. looking at buying a Safari Chef 2 today (I have Carri Chef 2 which is amazing but is a bit big and a faff for just the 4 of us.)

I know you can stick the EN417 cartridges onto an LP version (I have a CADAC power pack) but it would be nice to be able to do that WITHOUT having to have a hose connection.

Does anyone know if there’s a ‘collar/adapter’ which would enable you to connect the EN417 cartridge straight onto the bottom of the LP Safari Chef?

That would give me the option of LP and HP but without the hose. If I buy an HP version I don’t think you can stick an LP cylinder (907) on that without changing the flam-ie bits/jets, can you?

I run a Slidepod ultra in my Beach which also runs off EN417s so it’s also quite convenient to just have one type - given that EN417’s are a European standard - are they readily available in Europe? if so I may just buy the HP version.

(For the avoidance of doubt, I’m talking about the threaded variety)

Lots of questions - sorry about that!
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I think if you want it attached you will need the HP version sadly Ive never seen a solution without the hose.

in answer to @motacyclist sorry no once Cadac told me they didn't want it I threw it away but it would have probably worked fine with a new frame added to it somehow.
 
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I think if you want it attached you will need the HP version sadly Ive never seen a solution without the hose.

in answer to @motacyclist sorry no once Cadac told me they didn't want it I threw it away but it would have probably worked fine with a new frame added to it somehow.
Thanks Matt. I did some more ‘Googling’ and seems EN417 are widely available in Euroland so I’ve ordered a HP one with a Pizza Stone livin’ the dream!


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They're awesome bits of kit, we've done everything from kedgeree, to flat breads to fajitas on ours without a pizza stone. We just got a stone too but havent tried it yet :)
 
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We had always struggled to find a decent compact bbq, until now.

Anything with coals is messy, takes time to heat up and may be banned at French campsites. The Cobb has fans, but is too messy and hard to clean imho.

For about 6 years we struggled on with a campingaz partygrill. But this simply did not get hot enough, had no lid and took ages to cook food on due to its poor design. There is a newer version now, but it did not match up to the Cadac.

https://www.leisureoutlet.com/barbeques/outdoor-cooking/camping-and-outdoors/102293-cadac-safari-chef-2-high-pressure-gas-barbecue?gclid=CjwKCAjwsJ3ZBRBJEiwAtuvtlAb77PWC0PpIHMO2_Qn3bB8MPAjDqPLfz-WenUgz8ly8_U-DcBQs9xoCElsQAvD_BwE

The Cadac is faultless. It packs into a neat bag that is supplied with it. The gas heats a central disc in the griddle that means it gets hot enough and cooks evenly across the grill. The lid then gives the food a nice smokey flavour and greatly accelerates cooking time. It cooks in less than half the time of the partygrill.

It is non stick. It has a griddle to created charred lines on meat and also has a flat pan as well. It is easy to clean and only needs a sponge and washing up liquid.

The HP model (high pressure) is designed to have coleman screw thread cartridges attached directly to it so there is no need for a regulator or bulky cylinder. There is a LP version (low pressure) available too if you want to use it with the big gas cylinder inside your california.

Coleman cylinders are not as readily available in Europe as the campingaz click ones, but you can buy a small adaptor that converts click into the screw thread.

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It’s that time of the year again to start upgrading kit and, as I’ve just thrown away my charcoal bbq, I am in the market for a simple, easy to clean and portable gas replacement.

I noticed you bought the Cadac Safari Chef 2 HP and, along with Campingaz Party Grill 200 or 400cv, it is top of my shortlist...so how have you found it now you’ve used it for almost a year?

My main concern with the Cadac is the control of heat, as I’ve heard the Cadac has a control knob, but it doesn’t do much.

Any feedback would be appreciated and from anyone else who wants to chip in :)
 
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Still very happy with the Cadac. It is so much better than the campingaz version. The Cadac's lid is the game changer. It dramatically reduces grill time and cooks far more evenly.
 
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Just purchased a Cadac - fits into the cupboard under sink neatly
 
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It’s that time of the year again to start upgrading kit and, as I’ve just thrown away my charcoal bbq, I am in the market for a simple, easy to clean and portable gas replacement.

I noticed you bought the Cadac Safari Chef 2 HP and, along with Campingaz Party Grill 200 or 400cv, it is top of my shortlist...so how have you found it now you’ve used it for almost a year?

My main concern with the Cadac is the control of heat, as I’ve heard the Cadac has a control knob, but it doesn’t do much.

Any feedback would be appreciated and from anyone else who wants to chip in :)
Made several meals on our new Cadac HP.. The heat is very controllable despite other review comments about the HP version, I can happily report. Colman canisters x 6 for £20 on amazon. Very pleased so far - and no trailing pipework.
 
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Got the LP cadac off eBay second hand - came with a pizza stoneband paella dish so can cook vegetable dishes when had too much of bbq’ing - works off 907 cylinder same as Cali so perfect whichever version you choose :thumb
 
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Hi all

Could someone with the Safari Chef 2 HP tell me if the flame actually ever gets bigger when you turn the gas up ? My one makes more nice and sounds more powerful but there isnt an actual flame increase. Its alight, but the flame is just around the base and doesnt seem to get much bigger.

Gets a bit hotter on full power, well feels it does, but be good to know ! Pictures on full power if anyone has one !!
 
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Hi all

Could someone with the Safari Chef 2 HP tell me if the flame actually ever gets bigger when you turn the gas up ? My one makes more nice and sounds more powerful but there isnt an actual flame increase. Its alight, but the flame is just around the base and doesnt seem to get much bigger.

Gets a bit hotter on full power, well feels it does, but be good to know ! Pictures on full power if anyone has one !!
I have the HP and noticed this too. I thought that maybe the burner works a bit like the old gas fires that increased the surface area of flame to increase heat, rather than a gas hob where the flame just gets bigger.

The heat is definitely different between the lower and higher levels and, unlike some other posters, I find the HP control quite good, so maybe this is an improvement in the Safari Chef 2.

Great bit of kit, but it’s not a BBQ, as I’ve not managed to burn anything yet :cool:
 
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