Coronavirus Impact

[Joker 1299]

We can test tigers, but not NHS frontline staff? The world has gone mad.

 

[T6 CFO]

We can test tigers, but not NHS frontline staff? The world has gone mad.

I suspect your talking about the one in America.
We already know the worlds gone mad but maybe not that virus can travel from humans to animals. So perhaps a good idea. Especially cats and dogs.
Pussy on lockdown?


Mike

 

[T6 CFO]

UK PM Boris Johnson taken to intensive care https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52192604


Mike

 

[Amarillo]

UK PM Boris Johnson taken to intensive care https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52192604

Wow!

 

[CaliBear]

Opinions are like arseholes everybody’s got one

True. I'm not having a pop at you but isn't that the point of this post and in some extent the forum? To discuss people views and opinions whether we agree with them or not? If you don't agree then you could always discuss why and give your opinion and any facts associated with that opinion surely?

 

[Jay gas]

True. I'm not having a pop at you but isn't that the point of this post and in some extent the forum? To discuss people views and opinions whether we agree with them or not? If you don't agree then you could always discuss why and give your opinion and any facts associated with that opinion surely?

I wasn’t replying to your post calibear I was replying to docbobs post.

 

[ArunAlec]

I see David Icke has added to the mix, endorsing the 5G theory and claiming that the vaccine when one is developed, will include "nanotechnology microchips" that would allow humans to be controlled. He added that Bill Gates - who is helping fund Covid-19 vaccine research - should be jailed!!!

 

[Velma's Dad]

I see David Icke has added to the mix, endorsing the 5G theory and claiming that the vaccine when one is developed, will include "nanotechnology microchips" that would allow humans to be controlled. He added that Bill Gates - who is helping fund Covid-19 vaccine research - should be jailed!!!

Haven't seen David Icke pop up for a wee while but he's always excellent value when he does.

His core beliefs include "...that an inter-dimensional race of reptilian beings called the Archons (or Anunnaki) have hijacked the earth and that a genetically modified human–Archon hybrid race of shape-shifting reptilians, also known as the "Babylonian Brotherhood", the Illuminati, or the 'elite', manipulate global events to keep humans in constant fear so the Archons can feed off the 'negative energy' this creates."

Although that's according to Wikipedia and was probably posted by the Archon human-reptilians (Michael Gove is one of them) to discredit David.

 

[Jodalo]

Haven't seen David Icke pop up for a wee while but he's always excellent value when he does.

His core beliefs include "...that an inter-dimensional race of reptilian beings called the Archons (or Anunnaki) have hijacked the earth and that a genetically modified human–Archon hybrid race of shape-shifting reptilians, also known as the "Babylonian Brotherhood", the Illuminati, or the 'elite', manipulate global events to keep humans in constant fear so the Archons can feed off the 'negative energy' this creates."

Although that's according to Wikipedia and was probably posted by the Archon human-reptilians (Michael Gove is one of them) to discredit David.

He was bloody good on Sportsnight though!

 

[Amarillo]

He was bloody good on Sportsnight though!

He is rumoured to have a net worth of ~$1,000,000 so he is doing OK out of his quirky beliefs.

David Icke Net Worth

What is David Icke's net worth?

www.celebritynetworth.com

 

[Jodalo]

He is rumoured to have a net worth of ~$1,000,000 so he is doing OK out of his quirky beliefs.

David Icke Net Worth

What is David Icke's net worth?

www.celebritynetworth.com

Religion definitely pays, you only have to look at the USA to see that. All credit card donations gratefully received.

 

[clarinetbcn]

This is hard to look at. There is controversy about whether countries are truly reporting, but this is what governments are publicly acknowledging, and gives an idea of where we are headed.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 135,943,021 Cases and 2,938,561 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

 

[Amarillo]

There is controversy about whether countries are truly reporting, but this is what governments are publicly acknowledging

I said this about China, and I think it is true of all countries (except, perhaps, North Korea). The figures are what they are. They are confirmed infections and deaths where the deceased is know to have or known to have recently had Covid-19. I think that governments know that the actual number of Coronavirus infections are significantly higher than the number of confirmed infections. Similarly, there will have been deaths, especially in care homes, due to Coronavirus but will not have had that confirmed. In counties with less developed healthcare systems the gap will be wider still as people die in their homes.

It will not be until long after this has blown over that the true toll of the virus will be known. And even then, it will be an approximation.

 

[Joker 1299]

Haven't seen David Icke pop up for a wee while but he's always excellent value when he does.

His core beliefs include "...that an inter-dimensional race of reptilian beings called the Archons (or Anunnaki) have hijacked the earth and that a genetically modified human–Archon hybrid race of shape-shifting reptilians, also known as the "Babylonian Brotherhood", the Illuminati, or the 'elite', manipulate global events to keep humans in constant fear so the Archons can feed off the 'negative energy' this creates."

Although that's according to Wikipedia and was probably posted by the Archon human-reptilians (Michael Gove is one of them) to discredit David.

Isn’t he the son of God?

 

[Amarillo]

Isn’t he the son of God?

 

[Joker 1299]

Thought so.

 

[Lightning]

Bristol City Council giving some van dwellers somewhere to go:

A new temporary site for vehicle dwellers will open in Sea Mills tomorrow. It will offer 25 pitches, that are all safely distanced from each other. We have been doing all we can to locate people who might need support, and people arriving tomorrow will be provided with refreshments, and support to access health advice.

All the necessary facilities will be made available and they will be cleaned and disinfected every day to contain the potential spread of coronavirus. Bristol Waste will also provide appropriate waste and recycling facilities on site.

A big thank you to the Red Cross who will be providing the refreshments and health support tomorrow, and to Bristol Water for donating water for the site.

Also thanks to Vehicles for Change, who have worked with us to make sure that the opinions of the vehicle dwellers were considered.

 

[docbob1]

As many accept the formation of a police state, an economic disaster is occuring (I see economists are now referring to a DEPRESSION) not an economic recession (qv) . We are looking at £30Billion pounds for private sector minimum wages , a milllion approved DWP claims alone in the last 2 weeks (?£1 billion per month) plus what further will occur in next month or two!! The unemployment toll will be in excess of 15% possibly for 10 years so no tax from them to fund government but benefits also needed by these poor individuals. All this will be paid for by loans from whom and under what conditions? Look out for the Eurobond (coronabond!) but we need to be part of Europe to have it. This last bit is conjecture but likely to be the financing we will receive will stipulate that.
I attach a link to specialists in virology/epidemiology (study of diseases of populations) whose voices are not heard above WHO (not the independent, wonderful world peacekeepers medical branch of UN but whose biggest financiers are 1) Bill Gates 2)Pharmaceutical companies, and who determined this lock down policy. LOOK IT UP!
The dissenters, never heard on the British Brainwashing Corporation or mainstream media.
Try this for alternative research for the facts.

10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic

Following on from our previous list, here are ten more expert voices, drowned out or disregarded by the mainstream narrative, offering their take on the coronavirus outbreak. * * * Dr. Sunetra Gupt…

off-guardian.org

I also attach a paper from the 1989 flu epidemic (there were a few more in 1999, 2010, 2015 etc)
which shows an explosive incidence of respiratory disease weeks 46-51 (Nov/endDec) and the 2-3 week lag period for respiratory deaths, clearly must be linked!! In a seven week period there were 22,000 deaths above those expected. Lock down NO No No, normal epidemic flu not even pandemic.
For those with no brains or contributions do not waste a reply with "Yawn" "everyone has an opinion like arseholes" you deserve what will be coming your way if you don't wake up

 

[andyinluton]

sorry can you paraphrase that down to perhaps a sentence or two. Your posts are using up too much of my data allowance

 

[docbob1]

Hi Andy, past retirement age, not much cop at this electronic stuff, just have a brain that works. I don't think paraphrasing is possible but thanks for your interest in what is the most catastrophic scenario (AND I DO NOT MEAN CORONA DEATHS) since the 2nd world war

 

[HB19]

As many accept the formation of a police state, an economic disaster is occuring (I see economists are now referring to a DEPRESSION) not an economic recession (qv) . We are looking at £30Billion pounds for private sector minimum wages , a milllion approved DWP claims alone in the last 2 weeks (?£1 billion per month) plus what further will occur in next month or two!! The unemployment toll will be in excess of 15% possibly for 10 years so no tax from them to fund government but benefits also needed by these poor individuals. All this will be paid for by loans from whom and under what conditions? Look out for the Eurobond (coronabond!) but we need to be part of Europe to have it. This last bit is conjecture but likely to be the financing we will receive will stipulate that.
I attach a link to specialists in virology/epidemiology (study of diseases of populations) whose voices are not heard above WHO (not the independent, wonderful world peacekeepers medical branch of UN but whose biggest financiers are 1) Bill Gates 2)Pharmaceutical companies, and who determined this lock down policy. LOOK IT UP!
The dissenters, never heard on the British Brainwashing Corporation or mainstream media.
Try this for alternative research for the facts.

10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic

Following on from our previous list, here are ten more expert voices, drowned out or disregarded by the mainstream narrative, offering their take on the coronavirus outbreak. * * * Dr. Sunetra Gupt…

off-guardian.org

I also attach a paper from the 1989 flu epidemic (there were a few more in 1999, 2010, 2015 etc)
which shows an explosive incidence of respiratory disease weeks 46-51 (Nov/endDec) and the 2-3 week lag period for respiratory deaths, clearly must be linked!! In a seven week period there were 22,000 deaths above those expected. Lock down NO No No, normal epidemic flu not even pandemic.
For those with no brains or contributions do not waste a reply with "Yawn" "everyone has an opinion like arseholes" you deserve what will be coming your way if you don't wake up

Where’s David Icke? I thought we must be back into that again. What utter nonsense you spout.

 

[Amarillo]

Where’s David Icke? I thought we must be back into that again. What utter nonsense you spout.

Read it. There is a proper argument in there.

There will be a very substantial financial and human price to pay for keeping Covid-19 intensive care needs below the NHS capacity. The price of everything from increased domestic abuse, to loss of graduation parties, to suicides, to lost wages, to increased taxes, etc. might be a heavier toll than leaving Covid-19 patients to die untreated in hospital corridors. Sweden seems to think so.

Sweden stands firm over its controversial coronavirus approach

Sweden has come under fire for not putting everyone on coronavirus lockdown but public health chiefs are standing firm.

www.euronews.com

 

[HB19]

Read it. There is a proper argument in there.

There will be a very substantial financial and human price to pay for keeping Covid-19 intensive care needs below the NHS capacity. The price of everything from increased domestic abuse, to loss of graduation parties, to suicides, to lost wages, to increased taxes, etc. might be a heavier toll than leaving Covid-19 patients to die untreated in hospital corridors. Sweden seems to think so.

Sweden stands firm over its controversial coronavirus approach

Sweden has come under fire for not putting everyone on coronavirus lockdown but public health chiefs are standing firm.

www.euronews.com

I don’t think anyone will dispute that this dreadful disease (and the necessary and desperate attempts to contain it) will have a devastating impact on the economy, which will cost us all heavily in the years to come. And, a great many people are going to suffer enormous hardship through this process of containment and beyond it.

However, we are human beings and this is the time to show some humanity. Medics are already faced with the horrific task of having to choose which patients not to treat (patients who in different circumstance might have had a chance of being saved), and the suggestion that we could, or should, discard the old or vulnerable for the sake of the economy, or to enable us, as a community, to build sufficient herd immunity is frankly abhorrent to me.

Herd immunity is an unproven goal in this case, and although my personal thought is that most of us will probably have to be exposed to this disease, I would rather face the survival lottery at a time when there are sufficient hospital beds available to give me a fighting chance. That necessitates attempting to ease the impact of the sick on services, even if the treatment (isolation, job losses, economic collapse) also causes great pain.

The options for government are very few and none of them easy. I choose compassion over the economy and trust that we will find enough generosity as a nation to help people survive this as best we can.

Oh, and once again, let me remind you that this is not the seasonal flu, or any other kind of special flu outbreak and no amount of data quoting will make this the flu. Even the most recent bad flu years have not necessitated the building of Nightingale hospitals, the need for formal social distancing etc .. and its impact is partially controlled by a globally adopted vaccine.

This is a new to humans virus and we are only just learning how it works. It’s the unknowns that are scary for the world and, to quote a well known proverb .. to “assume makes an ass of you and me”.

Your stage in life, your financial security, your health, your family situation all have an impact on your outlook. It’s time to look at how this situation will impact the future of everyone, and dismissing this virus as just another anything is where I believe you are getting yourself in a bit of a muddle. Oh, and your seeming belief that we have more choices than we actually have.

 

[blondebier]

Looks like ministers are preparing to discuss lockdown options:

Coronavirus: Stay at home over Easter to stop virus, public told

People must "stick with" social distancing despite the forecast of warm weather, a minister says.

www.bbc.co.uk

It's mentioned again in this article that we risk a lot more people dying as a result of Covid-19 than because of it.

I'm hoping that the restrictions are lifted soon as I can't see that there is much justification for persisting them much longer.

 

[Jay gas]

Looks like ministers are preparing to discuss lockdown options:

Coronavirus: Stay at home over Easter to stop virus, public told

People must "stick with" social distancing despite the forecast of warm weather, a minister says.

www.bbc.co.uk

It's mentioned again in this article that we risk a lot more people dying as a result of Covid-19 than because of it.

I'm hoping that the restrictions are lifted soon as I can't see that there is much justification for persisting them much longer.

Speak to the family’s of victims of covid 19 for justification or you could talk to some of my friends who work in the icu near where I live for that justification you seek