To wave, or not to wave, the continued question?

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Wave or not to wave? That is the question.

For over a decade and more we have been driving some kind of VW camper, always converted (by us) vans until we purchased our California. For all of those years we have returned many waves, instigated many, and waved to some with no response. We don’t wave to any VW van (but return all waves), we keep our ours peeled for van-lifers. The fun in this is, again, not waving at any camper, visually hunting for evidence of like minded people. Those people that, like us, are not simply fans of the badge, the badge is just there, it is a path, a hobby, a way of life. (They can be spotted, the clues are there.)

We buy the brand because VW is the king of the road when it comes to reliability. There will be nay-sayers at this remark, but that is why we (wife and I) choose the badge, based on our experience they are easy to convert and most comfortable and reliable over time. Not because we want to be ‘dubbers’. However, it is a benefit that there is the huge club to be part of, and it is great fun to be a part of.

But no, we wave in acknowledgement of what we believe to be like minded people, following a passion to be outdoors. A passion to experience life, places and move on to the next adventure at will. Our vans, and now our California are not motorhomes, not a caravan. We rarely book a site (more fun to find one on the fly), and never spend that long anywhere that we are ‘ready to go home’. The camper gives freedom to sleep almost anywhere, to easily explore locally, ignore height restrictions, and to move around at will. Seeking, discovering, in an almost unique way. Then move on. It’s like freedom.

Over time, and since Covid, the number of campervans has doubled easily.

A lot of people buying just for the badge, and using the vans for their get away to the usual destinations for their week or 2 week holiday, less travelling - more camping (just posher than a tent ). My opinion.

I wonder if the middle class take over of camp sites and less van-lifers is the reason the wave is becoming less frequent? I don’t know, it’s my theory only. I mean, in all of this, it may just be sociable people wave and unsociable don’t - nothing to do with like minded life style. But when travelling before Covid, once parked, people would stroll over and chat about vans, adventures, and what next - not so much now. That makes me think, lifestyle.



For now, I still try to seek out those wavers. The wife, less so. Is it dying out? that kinship?



To wave, or not to wave? That is the continued question.

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We wave. Most do. Ironically it’s the “vanlifers” we find least likely to. Assume their hands too far up their arses.

Sometimes a thumbs up from the steering wheel, less likely to feel over exuberant.

If we don’t wave it’s generally because we were concentrating on something else and missed a Cali chum. We assume the same the other side.
 
All too often I receive a wave, but my reaction time is so poor that they’ve passed me before I can lift a hand. I’m concentrating on the road and not expecting to see another cali. Then sometimes we wave and then get a blank stare from a builder or delivery driver. Of course, you have to focus on waving at awnings!
 
Wave or not to wave? That is the question.

For over a decade and more we have been driving some kind of VW camper, always converted (by us) vans until we purchased our California. For all of those years we have returned many waves, instigated many, and waved to some with no response. We don’t wave to any VW van (but return all waves), we keep our ours peeled for van-lifers. The fun in this is, again, not waving at any camper, visually hunting for evidence of like minded people. Those people that, like us, are not simply fans of the badge, the badge is just there, it is a path, a hobby, a way of life. (They can be spotted, the clues are there.)

We buy the brand because VW is the king of the road when it comes to reliability. There will be nay-sayers at this remark, but that is why we (wife and I) choose the badge, based on our experience they are easy to convert and most comfortable and reliable over time. Not because we want to be ‘dubbers’. However, it is a benefit that there is the huge club to be part of, and it is great fun to be a part of.

But no, we wave in acknowledgement of what we believe to be like minded people, following a passion to be outdoors. A passion to experience life, places and move on to the next adventure at will. Our vans, and now our California are not motorhomes, not a caravan. We rarely book a site (more fun to find one on the fly), and never spend that long anywhere that we are ‘ready to go home’. The camper gives freedom to sleep almost anywhere, to easily explore locally, ignore height restrictions, and to move around at will. Seeking, discovering, in an almost unique way. Then move on. It’s like freedom.

Over time, and since Covid, the number of campervans has doubled easily.

A lot of people buying just for the badge, and using the vans for their get away to the usual destinations for their week or 2 week holiday, less travelling - more camping (just posher than a tent ). My opinion.

I wonder if the middle class take over of camp sites and less van-lifers is the reason the wave is becoming less frequent? I don’t know, it’s my theory only. I mean, in all of this, it may just be sociable people wave and unsociable don’t - nothing to do with like minded life style. But when travelling before Covid, once parked, people would stroll over and chat about vans, adventures, and what next - not so much now. That makes me think, lifestyle.



For now, I still try to seek out those wavers. The wife, less so. Is it dying out? that kinship?



To wave, or not to wave? That is the continued question.

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I think you will find that for much longer than your decade "using the vans for their get away to the usual destinations for their week or 2 week holiday, less travelling - more camping" has been the normal main use of campervans in the UK. And in the past mostly for retired people, almost all professional conversions were aimed in that direction then. It is actually a much more recent thing for people to think they might try and live in their vans, or stop and camp anywhere they like and it is that which has also massively grown in the last few years, which is why all the sea side towns are now banning campers from sea front parking and car parks.
We wave, we have always waved with a bay, a T4 and now a T5, and our beetle, but sometimes when you are concentrating you miss one and others probably do the same
 
Former and current classic VW Beetle owner. Cali since 2018. Of course we wave!!
Me, not so classic ‘New Beetle’, used to waving in the early years of ownership but dropped off over time.
I’ve missed loads of waves in the Cali so must apologise to those who may think I’m ignorant but I’m still getting used to the van and not realised it is still a thing?
My wife keeps pointing out I’ve missed another. The most recent being this week en route to Whitby.
 
Me, not so classic ‘New Beetle’, used to waving in the early years of ownership but dropped off over time.
I’ve missed loads of waves in the Cali so must apologise to those who may think I’m ignorant but I’m still getting used to the van and not realised it is still a thing?
My wife keeps pointing out I’ve missed another. The most recent being this week en route to Whitby.
Get her to wave for you if she spots one, my wife does it and everyone is happy ! If you both end up doing it at once you look a bit mad, but that's ok too :)
 
I’m a waver and if I’ve missed an oncoming wave my other half doesn’t. She’s a 2 hand waver (as a passenger)… Only problem is I drive a Peugeot van for work and I still wave at VW campers. I don’t get many return waves. They must think I’m nuts……
 
When I drove my Defender it was very common, almost every owner would wave, not so much a wave more a slight hand lift from the wheel. Sold my Defender ( very regrettable) years later I still do, and feel a bit daft.
 
I’m a waver and if I’ve missed an oncoming wave my other half doesn’t. She’s a 2 hand waver (as a passenger)… Only problem is I drive a Peugeot van for work and I still wave at VW campers. I don’t get many return waves. They must think I’m nuts……
Any wave counts :cheers Even from a PUG
 
Its the hesitation - do I, don't I, will they, won't they....

Just take a chance and give a courteous hand up rather a full on wave - you can always turn it into an arm stretch if they don't wave back and you don't want to look daft!
 
Interesting question.

Being new to the cali we were unclear on waving protocol.

When we were in Norfolk a few weeks back everyone seemed to be waving. Up in the lakes it was about half. Currently down in Devon/ Dorset and no one appears to be waving.

Confused.

D

Ps. Over the 5 years we had a multitude of scoobies everyone waved !
 
With a T1 or T2 ... and maybe up until the T3, you had some reaction time to observe and wave. T5 onwards these buses go too fast to observe and wave. So my vote - stop waving and come for a club meet. you can wave there to your hearts content and you will get a nice good wave back ... and maybe a hug too :thumb
 
Dad having a split screen it was common place in the 60s to wave. When we started with our T5 in 2012 it often happened now more vans far less waves. When I first joined this forum people used to post " I spotted a nice blue van on the Axxx near xxxxx̌" that rarely happens now. We hear people passing the van when parked up passing positive comments about the van but before covi they would stop and chat any sometimes ask questions. Thinks have changed.
 
Got a Cali wave the other day and I wasn't even in our van.
I'm shocked, I tell you, Shocked!
 

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