Jen, it’s not about ‘no risk’, everything has risk.
It’s a scenario which could happen as could lots of other things happening.
Another scenario is a village of children in Nigeria dying because of Carcinogens in their environment caused by the extraction of Petrochemicals which could go to fuel your camper-Van, or make your clothes or give you electricity.....or that might just not happen either....but you’re still carrying on regardless as am I.
We all do things that actually DO harm to other people, are we going to stop them?
Air pollution is estimated (WHO) to kill 4.6 Million people every year yet you’re driving a CO2 heavy vehicle. Perhaps that would be a better area for us all to make a contribution rather than worrying if one child taken short does/not wash their hands?
There has to be a perspective taken on all risks, I accept that I may not be right... but It looks to me that 4.6 Million people dying every year is a whole lot more serious than 300-500k people this year with Covid. We’re sweating the small stuff worrying about toilet blocks!
I quite agree Ron, and
@Mickyb123 there has to be a perspective taken.
However it is not mine, nor your, perspective that is doing untold damage and inflicting terrible miseery to millions in our society. It is the perspective of the government and the advisors who advise them. I used to climb bloody big mountains, as big as they get, and in Europe as nasty as they get, but that was me and my own personal risk management. This is not.
I want lockdown to end. It will only end once the people who's risk perspective governs lockdown are satisfied that the rate of infection, and the falling ill of the few who will be seriously ill with this virus, are not seen to being denied medical treatment because the numbers ill have overwhelmed the NHS.
If the rate of infection goes up, lockdown goes on longer. Not my choice, not my perspective, not my wish, no my take on risk management, but a fact of life,
If hot spots are detected, where social distancing is not taking place, and sites of activity are, in the perspective ofbeing taken by those who govern lockdown, providing possible hot spots of infection, they will be closed down. Then those of us prepared to go without, manage our own facilities, live a cave woman existence, will be denied. For a few weeks left of this year is it really worth creating a potential hotspot so a few people can have facilities (and one of those who need them is my Sister who I travel with so I am a loser by them being closed). Is it worth the risk that others who ordain these things decide others will have to suffer more misery, loss of employment etc. because a potential hotspot has been created?
It is not my perspective but it is the one I have to live with and it is the one I have to worry about when expressing my concern over the damage done by lockdown.
On a lighter note, I can give you a possibly unique perspective.
One of my more delightful jobs is to serve on a committee managing public bogs. When lockdown was proclaimed "WE", for it was a collective decision, voted to keep the bogs open. Most of the people who serve on the committee are beach hut owners who use the bogs most. I am on it because I helped secure the funding to acquire the lease from the local authority.
About four days ago the police were called to my local village. A complaint of masses of people on the village green, there because a local pub was serving "take-aways". Probably no risk at all and many would say he was providing a necessary service. As is the case with these things people mentioned others that were congregating around the public bogs.They were. Two people walking their dogs, one stops for a pee, another stands outside with dog on lead, two people passing stop to talk, someone else stops at the loo .... within minutes there could be a cluster of 12 people out there. I mention 12 because I counted when I walked back
So, net effect? Pub owner gets a veiled threat about when his license comes under review and we have been warned about a closure notice for the bogs. Brilliant! Even though I voted for closure when we took the vote I probably need them more than most! Every time I run that part of coast, most days, I have a Tena lady moment and found them strategically invaluable
Not my own perspective Ron, mine is that the only thing that will slow this infection rate of this virus to something that doesn't overwhelm the NHS is herd immunity and managed steps towards that aim should be the focus but can only be achieved by contact tracing.... however contact tracing will also highlight hotspots and as I have just seen, 4 days ago, there is no argument, hotspots identified - hotspots closed.
