Well done the BBC

[Meoncoast]

Turkeys and bog rolls next

people not used bog roll squirrelled away from the 1st lockdown.

 

[Ch1pbutty]

 

[GrahamB]

Er, it is widely reported that they are planning a visa scheme for foreign drivers.

Here’s one of them banging on about it…

 

[GrahamB]

Here’s one of them banging on about it…
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In other news, Dr Cognitive Dissonance explains how despite the EU-wide shortage of drivers, not to mention the generally hostile UK environment and adverse post-Brexit exchange rate, they will be queuing up for their shitty temporary visas in their thousands.

 

[soulstyledevon]

Being the child I am…
This was literally me yesterday, as I passed congestion & gridlock at the Shell garage.

 

[alan middleton]

Agree, it's a self fulfilling prophecy

Self fuelfilling…

 

[JoniF64]

Point is there is a general LGV driver shortage for general haulage. Fuel tanker drivers require a specialist ADR qualification to carry hazardous goods, and there is not shortage of these drivers. Therefore the problem has been created needlessly.

 

[soulstyledevon]

Not sure what all the fuss is about really.
Here’s my fuel crisis transportation back-up plan…

 

[sidepod]

Point is there is a general LGV driver shortage for general haulage. Fuel tanker drivers require a specialist ADR qualification to carry hazardous goods, and there is not shortage of these drivers. Therefore the problem has been created needlessly.

So all of the tanker drivers working last week, where are they now?

 

[Ch1pbutty]

So all of the tanker drivers working last week, where are they now?

Still working, and supply at your local fuel station would have been as normal….amazing the chaos that one comment made by the haulage association (then repeated on the news) can cause!

 

[soulstyledevon]

In the current climate.
It seems almost impossible to be unemployed…

 

[Wild Bob]

And other media outlets! After 30 or so Petrol stations were shut down or suffered shortages over the last week due to driver shortages, the media goes into full on panic mode telling people on the breakfast news that there is a fuel crisis. There isn't and there wasn't however, the result is that people have been queuing for hours for fuel, filling their cars and jerry cans with more fuel than they would use in a month, bleeding petrol stations dry and generally causing fear and confusion. The media has to stop doing this, they need to be held to account for this.

Agree as soon as we watched we knew there intentions was to create panic

 

[Mickyb123]

This latest panic was down to one media story causing a feeding frenzy by the generally dumb British public. There was no fuel shortage before the report that maybe 20 out of over 2 and half thousand BP stations might syrugg
eto be supplied.
The haulage industry have been warning for years that there was not enough investment, and there would be a shortage of drivers, this is not a shock to haulage firms.

 

[Mickyb123]

Got a buddy doing HGV training at the moment. They have a civilian aviation class 1 pilots medical ticket, that’s not good enough for DVLA. So can fly a triple 7 with 400 passengers but driving a lorry hmmm nope not without seeing a vastly less qualified GP to sign the DVLA med form.
Can’t get it signed because GP will not do face to face, consultation, The strike at DVLA delaying issue of licences also seems to be conveniently ignored by the media! But that does not fit the agenda so it would be.

 

[icic]

I don’t think there’s a conspiracy but what doesn’t seem to get reported much is that there is a Europe wide driver shortage, not just a UK shortage.

Yes but the EU is investing billions in better on road facilities for drivers and the pay is higher there. Until we do that here the is going to be a shortage, we need investment in road side facilities, we all talk about aries all the time, the drivers need these as well. It’s no wonder 100k existing HGV drivers have left the industry. I can’t see why the 5000 new visa drivers will come, worse pay and no facilities, they will stay in Europe.

 

[icic]

Agree as soon as we watched we knew there intentions was to create panic

Why would they want to create panic, what would be the gain for them to do so ?

 

[Digger]

Stupid people who take news as gospel. BBC and reporters have a lot to answer. Must stick up for dvla though as we transferred registration on line. Instant transfer and new V5 received in 3 days.

 

[icic]

Stupid people who take news as gospel. BBC and reporters have a lot to answer. Must stick up for dvla though as we transferred registration on line. Instant transfer and new V5 received in 3 days.

So they should censor the news they give, when they hear a report such as this and they should choose not to report it ?.. is that not a dangerous slippery slope, as we have someone deciding what we should or should not hear .. they just reported what they heard. Fundamentally the haulage industry has been warning about this for months, the government has ignored that advice, blaming all this on the BBC is not where all the blames lies

 

[Mickyb123]

Is the fact BP having difficulty with a very small number of sites worthy of front page news? It’s not censoring it’s making choices what is important. It happened with toilet roll. Media outlets managed to make a story from nothing.
Funny old thing, prices of fuel all of a sudden leaped up, one station by 10p a litre and that was not after a delivery.
lots of petrol outlets made a lot of money this weekend.

 

[icic]

Is the fact BP having difficulty with a very small number of sites worthy of front page news? It’s not censoring it’s making choices what is important. It happened with toilet roll. Media outlets managed to make a story from nothing.
Funny old thing, prices of fuel all of a sudden leaped up, one station by 10p a litre and that was not after a delivery.
lots of petrol outlets made a lot of money this weekend.

It’s still the news .. to choose to hide it and not report it is a worse choice. The relevance of reporting it is valid in my view when you look at the ongoing HGV driver crisis that has been talked about in alll media for weeks before this was reported
We need to take responsibility for our actions as people, it’s not the BBC who caused the issue, it’s those who rushed out to horde the fuel

 

[JoniF64]

So all of the tanker drivers working last week, where are they now?

Still working, trying to keep up with the demand cos of the stupidity of the panic buying public!

 

[GrumpyGranddad]

It’s still the news .. to choose to hide it and not report it is a worse choice. The relevance of reporting it is valid in my view when you look at the ongoing HGV driver crisis that has been talked about in alll media for weeks before this was reported
We need to take responsibility for our actions as people, it’s not the BBC who caused the issue, it’s those who rushed out to horde the fuel

Trouble is some journalists these days don’t report the news they create it. Just my opinion.

 

[WelshGas]

It’s still the news .. to choose to hide it and not report it is a worse choice. The relevance of reporting it is valid in my view when you look at the ongoing HGV driver crisis that has been talked about in alll media for weeks before this was reported
We need to take responsibility for our actions as people, it’s not the BBC who caused the issue, it’s those who rushed out to horde the fuel

True, the relevance of reporting it is valid, but taking it out of context is not. Nothing related to the European shortage of HGV drivers. No different to the Gas supply issues. No context. Europe has the same problems with supply as well, but very little if any mention on the BBC.

 

[sidepod]

I hate that people on the dole are described as 'scroungers' yes, there may be a lot of them but there are also a lot of people that are just unlucky and have been forced into it. It's something I've had to do and would not like to be in that situation again.

Even better. A volunteer is better than a pressed man.

 

[GrahamB]

True, the relevance of reporting it is valid, but taking it out of context is not. Nothing related to the European shortage of HGV drivers. No different to the Gas supply issues. No context. Europe has the same problems with supply as well, but very little if any mention on the BBC.

I dont think that is correct - certainly if you include online reporting on BBC it is here:
How serious is the shortage of lorry drivers? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57810729

This article puts it in the context of EU wide shortage but makes the point that it is worse here post Brexit because many EU drivers have gone home.