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France in August?

This is the same error in logic that led WG to mislead and insult 180 owners who experienced catastrophic failure. Because the evidence didn't fit the criteria that he established, he insisted there wasn't any. As in this case, there is plenty of meaningful information, but you have to know how to use it.
 
This is the same error in logic that led WG to mislead and insult 180 owners who experienced catastrophic failure. Because the evidence didn't fit the criteria that he established, he insisted there wasn't any. As in this case, there is plenty of meaningful information, but you have to know how to use it.

He also made an error in logic by saying that replacing windscreen curtains with an external cover made no difference to windscreen condensation.
 
The only statistic that really impresses me is the 75 million doses of vaccine given in the UK since December.

Agreed.

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I am now trying to guess where the overall adult population vaccinated figure will settle.

88% for at least one dose and 85% for two doses is my guess by the end of August.

I think that Bahrain is on 99% for at least one dose- but maybe that’s a meaningless figure.
 
Agreed.

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I am now trying to guess where the overall adult population vaccinated figure will settle.

88% for at least one dose and 85% for two doses is my guess by the end of August.

I think that Bahrain is on 99% for at least one dose- but maybe that’s a meaningless figure.
I was chatting with a doctor, who just joined the nhs, after coming here from Bahrain. He said that he was vaccine-reluctant, until the Bahrain authorities announced that you would need a vaccine to get into the shopping mall. Then he jumped the queue for the vaccine!
 
He also made an error in logic by saying that replacing windscreen curtains with an external cover made no difference to windscreen condensation.
Incorrect, as usual. I said an external cover, without adequate ventilation, will just move the condensation to other, colder areas, within the vehicle. That is not an opinion but a fact of physics.
 
This is the same error in logic that led WG to mislead and insult 180 owners who experienced catastrophic failure. Because the evidence didn't fit the criteria that he established, he insisted there wasn't any. As in this case, there is plenty of meaningful information, but you have to know how to use it.
Incorrect as usual.
There is No grade A evidence that the EGR is totally responsible for increased oil consumption on the 180 CFCA engine. Also you, as usual, are confusing the 2010/2011 CFCA engine failure, well documented, with post 2011 CFCA engines with increased oil consumption of which there are a very small number of such engines, as there are with other engines and other manufacturers.
Software or mechanical mapping out the EGR valve does nothing to remove the EGR oil cooler from the engine lubrication system. It is still in circuit and if responsible for the increased oil consumption would have no effect.
Now on 100,000 miles and oil consumption less than 250mls/ 20,000 miles. Non-suffix EGR valve.

Oh dear, should I complain to VW?

Please do advise. What should I do?
 
Agreed.

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I am now trying to guess where the overall adult population vaccinated figure will settle.

88% for at least one dose and 85% for two doses is my guess by the end of August.

I think that Bahrain is on 99% for at least one dose- but maybe that’s a meaningless figure.
Depends whether just Citizens are counted or “ Guest Workers “ as well.
 
Incorrect, as usual. I said an external cover, without adequate ventilation, will just move the condensation to other, colder areas, within the vehicle. That is not an opinion but a fact of physics.
You disagreed with this:

 
You disagreed with this:

I did.
Followed by this post.

This Old Wives Tail that an external insulated windscreen cover reduces condensation is an affrontary to the Laws of Physics. Without adequate ventilation all the cover does is move the condensation to other areas, Body panels in the kitchen or wardrobe cupboards, behind trim panels or anywhere that is cold.


Don’t be so selective in your quotes. It’s very disingenuous.
 
I did.
Followed by this post.

This Old Wives Tail that an external insulated windscreen cover reduces condensation is an affrontary to the Laws of Physics. Without adequate ventilation all the cover does is move the condensation to other areas, Body panels in the kitchen or wardrobe cupboards, behind trim panels or anywhere that is cold.


Don’t be so selective in your quotes. It’s very disingenuous.

Ahhh - so you agreed with my post but still hit the disagree button. Then wrote something that you disagreed with to call it “an old wives’ tail” [sic].

Who was being disingenuous?
 
I'll sort this out for you all. The thread is called france in august,yes or no ? Well the answer is no. Easy
Thanks for bringing back on topic :)

I am glad it is an easy decision for you. For me it is more nuanced and so I really appreciate seeing the different views and approaches in this thread.

As things stand, if I was ‘fully vaccinated’, could secure transport, could avoid any impact on my kid’s return to school, stick to the law AND be comfortable from a personal risk assessment perspective…. then I would go to France tomorrow.

If (and I know it is a big if) all of the above still holds on 15 August then I will be going. Perhaps a bit more flexibility on leave date now as I fully expect Cropredy to be cancelled :(
 
I'm still hoping that we can transit France to the UK and back without any major hiccups. There was a delay in my UK property sale, so we pushed the removal company back as maybe we can still do a trip. Does not look 'easy' or 'cheap' still though!
 
Ahhh - so you agreed with my post but still hit the disagree button. Then wrote something that you disagreed with to call it “an old wives’ tail” [sic].

Who was being disingenuous?
if you are being Pedantic, as you usually are, the condensation, without any change to ventilation, will be moved to another area. That is not the same as eliminating or reducing the degree of condensation, it just makes it less visible.

But if it makes you happy, carry on.
 
if you are being Pedantic, as you usually are, the condensation, without any change to ventilation, will be moved to another area. That is not the same as eliminating or reducing the degree of condensation, it just makes it less visible.

But if it makes you happy, carry on.

You are still doing it… Making out I claimed something I didn’t claim so you can disagree with it.

I said that I used an external cover to reduce condensation on the windows. I do, and it does.

You change it to appear that I said I use an external cover to reduce overall condensation in the van. I didn’t.

Who is being disingenuous?
 
You are still doing it… Making out I claimed something I didn’t claim so you can disagree with it.

I said that I used an external cover to reduce condensation on the windows. I do, and it does.

You change it to appear that I said I use an external cover to reduce overall condensation in the van. I didn’t.

Who is being disingenuous?

Can we get back on topic please, I couldn't give a stuff about where your condensation is.

Some of us are interested in whether travel to or through France is possible, whether for business, pleasure or family reasons.
 
I have followed this thread from a far and the general bemoaning about what the U.K. government has and has not done, the argument and counter argument for international travel and the hardships felt by some.

the thing I find quite interesting, those that are often highly critical of the U.K. Governments decision not to impose an “early lock down” or close boarders, now want to travel across those boarders freely and return after their holiday ?
A simple risk assessment, based on the freely available real world information and experience to date, show a direct correlation of the increased risk of spread of the virus is related to international cross boarder travel. Remember the U.K. was relatively virus free for six weeks after Italy was riddled with it, it’s true that the virus has been spread with ease, world wide due to the ease international travel.

IMO The U.K. government has tried to treat U.K. residents like sensible adults who are capable of making / taking a moral decision to do the right thing, despite many looking for ways to circumvent their moral duties.
most U.K. residents do the right thing, only for a small minority to scupper those good intentions such as those who do not Follow the guidance Fully. The U.K. has not imposed draconian enforcement measure as has been seen in some countries, but non the less rules have largely been followed by the masses fulfilling their moral duty.

couple this with the real issue to keep the U.K. economy on life support, furlough and the whole raft of massive financial measure the U.K. government has introduced for the specific benefit of U.K. residents and business specifically to protected and limit the the full financial impact that the world pandemic would have brought to bear had the U.K. Government not taken the approach it has. IMO every single person in the U.K. has benefited directly or indirectly from the U.K. government actions, to suggest otherwise is disingenuous.
IMO development of a vaccine world class
IMO vaccination program is the best in the world
IMO testing is the best in the world

Whether “travel to France in August“ will be technically possible, I have no idea, will it be possible to circumvent requirements and reduce the cost of those requirements (as was going on during lock down #1 &2) I have no interest in.
whether travel outside the U.K. is morally correct is a matter for those considering it and for those to retrospectively analyse it.
When we are in the next lock down, I hope those that plan to travel internationally can fully and unequivocally justify why their several week family holiday took precedence over the wider moral issues in stopping the spread of this world wide Virus that directly affect the masses.

Portugal is a prime example of Revenue, for the minority, taking prescede over the needs of the world population, the Euros will be another retrospective lesson (no social distancing on the pitch, in the crowd or the venues outside stadia)

I am as frustrated as many with the inability to go to France / Europe for my planned three week Holiday during summer holidays, however the frustration is tempered with the reality of the situation and the necessity to curb all cross border international travel for the foreseeable future to limit the potential spread of this virus and its variants (now or in future).

This is a unprecedented event which requires everyone to take unprecedented measures to change our normal pattern of living, a requirement some seem to not want to recognise for their own personal reasons.

That is why I decided a long time ago not to travel outside the U.K. this summer, even if it were technically possible.

let’s hope we all can look back and say “I did my part fully and to the best of my ability to prevent this horrid virus from spreading“ more than it could have, had I not done some simple things to limit my expose and therefore exposure of others that prevented the potential spread of the virus, even if this affected my personal freedom of choice in the relative short term for the benefit of the masses and to curtail the prevalence of this world pandemic and future variants!
 
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And the good news from an expat relative is that PCR tests in France are apparently free to all including British tourists needing them to return. So it’ll just cost you £57 for the outbound PCR test and £146.30 for the 2 & 8 day tests whilst quarantining at home. As long as it stays like that we’re going at the end of August.
 
And the good news from an expat relative is that PCR tests in France are apparently free to all including British tourists needing them to return. So it’ll just cost you £57 for the outbound PCR test and £146.30 for the 2 & 8 day tests whilst quarantining at home. As long as it stays like that we’re going at the end of August.
Yes I confirm this too, my partner is there visiting Grandchildren.
Bizarrely, in spite of France recognising proof of double vaccination as the reason they allow UK residents in, no one on her entire journey asked to see it !
 
Pretty sure I read that double-vacs don’t need to quarantine on return to uk? Perhaps I made that up?

Anyway it’s all bollox, we now have Delta+ heading our way. !!!
 

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