Re: Poll - DSG or Compromise (Manual)

[California4x4]

I couldn’t be happier to have one of the last manual 4Motion California’s made with a diff-lock. A genuinely capable all-terrain adventure vehicle.

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[California4x4]

complexity and lack of control with DSG does open it up to problems like the ones below.

T6 Gear changes impacted after emissions recall

Having had the recall done last week (the one that is billed as increasing the AdBlue consumption during regen) I have found that our T6 is now remaining in too high a gear (and struggling) requiring a kick down whereas previously it would have silently changed down. Most obvious when coasting...

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DSG GEARBOX :- reversing problems no drive then slams backward

Hi all, I have a 204 DSG Ocean 4000 Mel's and feb 2017 Just bought this . My first trip out needed me to reverse up a hill to park , I select R , release brakes and it just rolls forward , then apply brakes and add a little throttle (1000 rpm ) brake off and still rolls forward add another 100...

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[blakeley]

Do people really still buy manuals ? Wonder if they all have Windows 95 computers too?

 

[TripleBee]

Do people really still buy manuals ? Wonder if they all have Windows 95 computers too?

Lol.
Spending more to buy an automatic. Spending more on servicing your auto. Having to deal with some annoying behaviour of the automatic.

Do people still buy Apple?

Quite a silly response to this thread.

 

[Borris]

What a silly thread!

Buy which ever suits you. I've owned both a manual and two dsg Calis and neither gearbox is a compromise.

 

[California4x4]

Do people really still buy manuals ? Wonder if they all have Windows 95 computers too?

Hahaha

A manual Ocean with a MacBook Pro and iPad Pro. Not mutually exclusive.

 

[subthree]

Hahaha

A manual Ocean with a MacBook Pro and iPad Pro. Not mutually exclusive.View attachment 59435

And a Rotring 600 pen?

 

[California4x4]

And a Rotring 600 pen?

Eagle eyes. Almost. Rotring rapid pro technical.

 

[blakeley]

You mean they still make manual gearboxes ? They will disappear soon I guess like black and white TVs

 

[Jabberwocky]

No compromise, just different. What's wrong with that?

 

[Vagophile]

You mean they still make manual gearboxes ? They will disappear soon I guess like black and white TVs

More opportunity for senile old duffers to confuse the pedals.

 

[TripleBee]

One reason I didn't vote: I don't know what a compromise is. I know about automatic, robotised manual, continuous variable transmissions and manual transmissions, but I don't know compromised transmission.

In fact, as from the T5, there is no automatic gearbox anymore. It's all DSG. And that is a robotised MANUAL gearbox.

 

[Bellcrew]

One reason I didn't vote: I don't know what a compromise is. I know about automatic, robotised manual, continuous variable transmissions and manual transmissions, but I don't know compromised transmission.

In fact, as from the T5, there is no automatic gearbox anymore. It's all DSG. And that is a robotised MANUAL gearbox.

The old Ducato auto was robotised manual, desperately slow and clunky.
The DSG manages without the old fuel gobbling slush box yet still changes gear with consummate speed/smoothness and of course automatically. The only obvious flaw is the reverse up hill hesitation some people experience but hey I think vacuum operated windscreen wipers were the ultimate in automation, different strokes..............

 

[Vagophile]

I thought the clue was in the description - manual, i.e. by hand. Any system devised for a gearbox causing it to change gears without the driver depressing a clutch and pushing a gear lever around I would think could rightly be called automatic, no matter how the system operates.

 

[Karlos]

On my second van now and would not consider a DSG box, I like to change gear myself.

 

[Bellcrew]

On my second van now and would not consider a DSG box, I like to change gear myself.

Of course you could leave the DSG in manual mode, just no clutch operate every time you change gears, alternatively those 12 pushes every time you go up and down the manual box will keep you fit and develop those left leg muscles a treat.