Stop/Start function - starting to stop me using it.

[The Fockers]

I have the DSG7 gearbox and the daft thing I find with stop/start is that you have to keep your foot on the brake all the time which, at night, is blinding the driver behind. I want to be able to pull the handbrake if I think I'm going to be stationary for a fair time. Otherwise I don't mind it at all.

 

[pluc99]

I have the DSG7 gearbox and the daft thing I find with stop/start is that you have to keep your foot on the brake all the time which, at night, is blinding the driver behind. I want to be able to pull the handbrake if I think I'm going to be stationary for a fair time. Otherwise I don't mind it at all.

If stopped for a long time you could turn off the engine manually.
A saw a feature on an engineering channel (can't remember which) that studied the minimum amount of stop time that would result in fuel savings versus the extra fuel consumed to start the engine. The surprising answer was 7 seconds. Of course that's a general statement and the answer for different vehicles will be slightly different.

 

[TripleBee]

I have the DSG7 gearbox and the daft thing I find with stop/start is that you have to keep your foot on the brake all the time which, at night, is blinding the driver behind. I want to be able to pull the handbrake if I think I'm going to be stationary for a fair time. Otherwise I don't mind it at all.

I have a manual, and no stop/start, but when I am stopping, I always put the gearbox in neutral, and if necessary, I pull the handbrake.
Doesn't your stop/start work when you put your gear lever in P? You brake, put in P, and pull the handbrake. Normally the engine should stop. And when you push the brake pedal, put the gear lever back in D, the engine should start again.

 

[Mehdime]

I have a manual, and no stop/start, but when I am stopping, I always put the gearbox in neutral, and if necessary, I pull the handbrake.
Doesn't your stop/start work when you put your gear lever in P? You brake, put in P, and pull the handbrake. Normally the engine should stop. And when you push the brake pedal, put the gear lever back in D, the engine should start again.

Yes, that’s how it works. Put the gear on P, pull the handbrake and you can now releease the brake. The engine will remain stopped. The peace from the engine noise is pure bliss.

 

[Blue Yonder]

I always switch it off at the start of every journey . Switch it on if I'm in a traffic jam which isn't very often . Don't think it can do engine any good .

I do the same but an idling engine shortens the gearbox’s dual mass fly wheel lifespan I believe the fuel saving occurs after around 6 secs of the engine stopping.

For me sat at a busy junction waiting to pull out with the engine not running is unnerving

 

[Ghostbuster]

I always worry about the stress on the Turbo when a sudden start /stop is intriduced

 

[WelshGas]

All I can say is I’ve used Stop/Start for the past 10yrs and 134,560 miles. No problems with Dual Mass Flywheel, DSG , Starter Motor or biturbos.

 

[The Fockers]

Yes, that’s how it works. Put the gear on P, pull the handbrake and you can now releease the brake. The engine will remain stopped. The peace from the engine noise is pure bliss.

If I put it in P, the engine remains stopped BUT I then have to restart the engine on the key which defeats one of the start/stop benefits of the engine starting itself.

 

[Mehdime]

If I put it in P, the engine remains stopped BUT I then have to restart the engine on the key which defeats one of the start/stop benefits of the engine starting itself.

Is that a T6.1? On my T6.1, I put it to P and pull the hand brake and the engine stops and I can release the brake pedal. When it’s time to start again, push the brake, gear back to D, release handbrake and the engine starts again. No need to use the key.

 

[andyinluton]

Is that a T6.1? On my T6.1, I put it to P and pull the hand brake and the engine stops and I can release the brake pedal. When it’s time to start again, push the brake, gear back to D, release handbrake and the engine starts again. No need to use the key.

That’s not quite right is it? Putting into P stops the engine, you can then take foot off the brake without the engine restarting, foot on brake and back into D, the engine will then restart as you release the footbrake.

It’s the footbrake that’s the trigger to start the engine. Handbrake has no effect.

 

[Mehdime]

That’s not quite right is it? Putting into P stops the engine, you can then take foot off the brake without the engine restarting, foot on brake and back into D, the engine will then restart as you release the footbrake.

It’s the footbrake that’s the trigger to start the engine. Handbrake has no effect.

True. Handbrake is there to keep the van in place. But no key required is the main point - it works as expected (on the T6.1 at least - can’t comment on previous models). On occasion, it will ask to restart the engine manually (with the key) but that’s typically if you’ve been stopped for a long time.

 

[cholo]

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[The Fockers]

Is that a T6.1? On my T6.1, I put it to P and pull the hand brake and the engine stops and I can release the brake pedal. When it’s time to start again, push the brake, gear back to D, release handbrake and the engine starts again. No need to use the key.

No. It's a T5 and I get a message telling me to start with the key.