Actually PHEVs do not get a cheap BIK rate, only full EVs do, so PHEVs are very expensive as company cars. Full EVs are great for not just short but long journeys too and I agree wouldn’t work as a camper. PHEVs are the worst of both worlds IMO and also pointless in a camper.
If your campervan is only used for high days and holidays, as many are judging by the annual milage of many, then I totally agree, but mine is my everyday vehicle as well and with abysmal public transport a hybrid would suit me perfectly and allow me to continue my trips to Scandinavia and the rest of Europe. At 15 to 20,000 miles a year and no restrictions on where I can drive, at the moment, it will do me for the next 10+ years.
PHEVS do get a reduced discount rate, based on their quoted range on EV.
I wouldn’t really describe that as cheap though. For EVs it’s 2%!
It’s cheaper than the equivalent ICE?
| Vehicle CO2 emissions | BiK rate (Electric, Petrol, RDE2 Diesel) | ||
| 2023-24 | 2024-25 | 2025-26 | |
| 0 g/km | 2% | 2% | 3% |
| 1-50 g/km (electric range >130 miles) | 2% | 2% | 3% |
| 1-50 g/km (electric range 70-129 miles) | 5% | 5% | 6% |
| 1-50 g/km (electric range 40-69 miles) | 8% | 8% | 9% |
| 1-50 g/km (electric range 30-39 miles) | 12% | 12% | 13% |
| 1-50 g/km (electric range <30 miles) | 14% | 14% | 15% |
| 51-54 g/km | 15% | 15% | 16% |
| 55-59 g/km | 16% | 16% | 17% |
| 60-64 g/km | 17% | 17% | 18% |
| 65-69 g/km | 18% | 18% | 19% |
| 70-74 g/km | 19% | 19% | 20% |
| 75-79 g/km | 20% | 20% | 21% |
| 80-84 g/km | 21% | 21% | 22% |
| 85-89 g/km | 22% | 22% | 23% |
| 90-94 g/km | 23% | 23% | 24% |
| 95-99 g/km | 24% | 24% | 25% |
| 100-104 g/km | 25% | 25% | 26% |
| 105-109 g/km | 26% | 26% | 27% |
| 110-114 g/km | 27% | 27% | 28% |
| 115-119 g/km | 28% | 28% | 29% |
| 120-124 g/km | 29% | 29% | 30% |
| 125-129 g/km | 30% | 30% | 31% |
| 130-134 g/km | 31% | 31% | 32% |
| 135-139 g/km | 32% | 32% | 33% |
| 140-144 g/km | 32% | 33% | 34% |
| 145-149 g/km | 34% | 34% | 35% |
| 150-154 g/km | 35% | 35% | 36% |
| 155-159 g/km | 36% | 36% | 37% |
| 160-164 g/km | 37% | 37% | 37% |
| 165-169 g/km | 37% | 37% | 37% |
| >170 | 37% | 37% | 37% |
I liked this analysis. I too think the Multivan will be a higher price point than the outgoing model. Initially supply will be tight and discounts lower, so I think the gap between T7 and T6 will be a combination of today’s discounts and the future vehicle’s higher price point. I’m hopeful for low depreciation on the last generation of Transporter-based campers.
I went for PHEV as a middle ground due to infrastructure and range limitations when I was ordering my last work car. I wasn’t blown away by the offerings and didn’t want a Tesla.
I agree, PHEV are the worst of both worlds. They’re heavier than pure ICE vehicles, servicing still involves cam belts, oil changes etc. Battery range is woeful on most of them, I’ve collected and delivered lease PHEV’s that only manage 15-60 miles on their batteries, although to be fair most have never been plugged in during the lease period anyway, vehicle only got for the BIK tax fiddle. I collected one recently that the owner had used on battery only during the last few days of the lease as they wanted to use all the petrol in the tank and not top it up, the battery was knackered (down to 2%) and needed replacing. No idea how much that cost them.
Batteries cost between £15-25k often.
Interesting- thanks! It never occurred to me that people wouldn’t charge a plug in hybrid. I don’t have one, but if I did I reckon 90% of my journeys would be pure electric - going to the shops, station, eating out, etc. I have an EV and part of my reason for getting a Cali is that my diesel SUV gets so little use I have to faff about to prevent the battery dying. The Cali offers something different while still being a second car for the rare occasions it’s needed. For me, an EV and a Cali will, I hope, give lots of options.
Hi - this is exactly the combo I’m thinking of longer term. See if/how a Cali works for the family.
They probably don’t pay for the fuel, claim it back on expenses. Company pays.
So how much is pence per mile? What EV?
It does seem low, but I think it’s right. The car is a Volvo XC40 Twin Engine. The car says it has done 32.2 kWh/100 miles (it has an app with statistics). At 34p/kWh, that’s 10.95 pence per mile. I’ve done mixed mileage and haven’t driven with a ludicrously heavy right foot (but it is quite nippy).
That’s a hybrid I think yes? So that seems reasonable.
No, not a hybrid, an EV. Two electric motors, no internal combustion engines. (My order went in on 31/10/23… now the long wait.)
Same logic as you, although we don’t think we need 4motion so ordered a bit earlier. The price now is compelling. The car we are selling will fund most of the 50% deposit, so the up front pain is quite low, but we feel very lucky to be able to afford a brand new one.
The vans have been stock only for about six months now, I think.Just noticed on the UK configurator tool that most of the T6.1 versions, other than Cali, have moved to "Stock Only" status.
If anyone wants a new T6.1 Cali, they may need to move quickly.
Hope to hell that my order has hit the system!!
Yes this isn’t new on the website. Cali will go the same way at some point, but they’re obviously struggling to fill the order book, hence the deals that have been available lately. Can’t be much longer now though I wouldn’t think.
Hardly surprising with so many (everyone) affected by leaky bellows.
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