What dream car would you choose on retirement (other than a Cali naturally)

Sorry, this may have been covered before but how can an electric car be described as a Turbo? Am I missing something?
C’mon Borris, keep up. All of the Boxsters, Cayman and 911 now have a Turbo except the GTs but only one of them is allowed to be called a Turbo. And now they have an electric car without a turbo that is allowed to be called a Turbo. Simple :rolleyes:
 
C’mon Borris, keep up. All of the Boxsters, Cayman and 911 now have a Turbo except the GTs but only one of them is allowed to be called a Turbo. And now they have an electric car without a turbo that is allowed to be called a Turbo. Simple :rolleyes:
"When I say a word it means exactly what I chose it to mean", Humpty is always correct when these dilemmas are presented.
 
C’mon Borris, keep up. All of the Boxsters, Cayman and 911 now have a Turbo except the GTs but only one of them is allowed to be called a Turbo. And now they have an electric car without a turbo that is allowed to be called a Turbo. Simple :rolleyes:

But don’t confuse the standard turbos with the proper Turbo...:talktothehand
 
C’mon Borris, keep up. All of the Boxsters, Cayman and 911 now have a Turbo except the GTs but only one of them is allowed to be called a Turbo. And now they have an electric car without a turbo that is allowed to be called a Turbo. Simple :rolleyes:
Oh good. I'm glad that's cleared that up. o_O
 
Sorry, this may have been covered before but how can an electric car be described as a Turbo? Am I missing something?
Absolutely agree. If I had gone for that model I’d have specified model deletion as an option. Doesn’t look right on an electric car. Like most I’d prefer a 911, then a turbo would be appropriate.
 
Absolutely agree. If I had gone for that model I’d have specified model deletion as an option. Doesn’t look right on an electric car. Like most I’d prefer a 911, then a turbo would be appropriate.
It’s just a brand name now - turbo is a higher spec. Like a Defender doesn’t actually defend anything, it’s just a great name. I don’t mind them using Turbo on cars without a turbocharger really. ‘Turbo’ and ‘turbocharge’ are used in different ways these days - sort of slang for boost or speed up..?
 
It’s just a brand name now - turbo is a higher spec. Like a Defender doesn’t actually defend anything, it’s just a great name. I don’t mind them using Turbo on cars without a turbocharger really. ‘Turbo’ and ‘turbocharge’ are used in different ways these days - sort of slang for boost or speed up..?
Call me old fashioned but if it says Turbo then a turbo it should have. It's like biting into a sausage only to find it's some ghastly vegan or veggie offering masquerading as a sausage. No offence to vegans or Vegetarians but a sausage is a sausage so keep your mitts off them. Just saying.
 
718???????????? That’s the 4pot turbo Subaru engine right????
Nothing wrong with my 718, apart from not having a ”turbo” badge!;)
Call me old fashioned but if it says Turbo then a turbo it should have. It's like biting into a sausage only to find it's some ghastly vegan or veggie offering masquerading as a sausage. No offence to vegans or Vegetarians but a sausage is a sausage so keep your mitts off them. Just saying.
I have the same issue with sticking “digital“ in front of the name of a domestic appliance.
 
Call me old fashioned but if it says Turbo then a turbo it should have. It's like biting into a sausage only to find it's some ghastly vegan or veggie offering masquerading as a sausage. No offence to vegans or Vegetarians but a sausage is a sausage so keep your mitts off them. Just saying.
I see your point, and think I'd prefer your world. I like to think I don't resist cultural change though. Could it be that the meaning of 'sausage' and 'burger' can evolve and be prefixed with 'veggie-' to ensure carnivores aren't hoodwinked, AND omnivores eyes are opened?
I have, inadvertently I think, reduced my meat consumption quite a lot this last 2 or so years, perhaps because marketers and chefs have tempted me with 'veggie' options, which is all for the good.
 
I see your point, and think I'd prefer your world. I like to think I don't resist cultural change though. Could it be that the meaning of 'sausage' and 'burger' can evolve and be prefixed with 'veggie-' to ensure carnivores aren't hoodwinked, AND omnivores eyes are opened?
I have, inadvertently I think, reduced my meat consumption quite a lot this last 2 or so years, perhaps because marketers and chefs have tempted me with 'veggie' options, which is all for the good.
NO NO NO. :offtopic

This is supposed to be about dream cars on retirement not the benefits or not of what we eat. I know it was straying but let’s get it back on topic please :thumb
 
NO NO NO. :offtopic

This is supposed to be about dream cars on retirement not the benefits or not of what we eat. I know it was straying but let’s get it back on topic please :thumb
Back on topic.
How about this head turner to start your retirement with. I'll get more attention than any Porsche or anything else for that matter. :thumb
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I'll get my coat.
 
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One of my favourire Ferraris; very Stratos-esque. No surprise, given that Bertone did the styling.

I came so close to buying an unmolested, immaculate 22k miles 308GT4 a few years ago - another of my ‘Shoulda, woulda, coulda’ moments.

a couple more photos...it was fun but my mechanical skills were not up to the challenges it offered!!

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a couple more photos...it was fun but my mechanical skills were not up to the challenges it offered!!

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Against friends‘ advice, I purchased a low mileage, immaculate Mondial QV, when I was running a new Honda S2000 some years ago.

Aside from a failed clutch slave cylinder, the Mondial had only regular, and inexpensive, independent servicing, and was faultless as a bit of fun for my wife and our then 2 small daughters.

The Mondial used lots of German parts-bin components; the brakes were ATE as used on a 3 Series, and it featured lots of Fiat and Lancia parts too. A very underrated car the Mondial; how often does one see a mid-engined, 2-plus-2?
 
Against friends‘ advice, I purchased a low mileage, immaculate Mondial QV, when I was running a new Honda S2000 some years ago.

Aside from a failed clutch slave cylinder, the Mondial had only regular, and inexpensive, independent servicing, and was faultless as a bit of fun for my wife and our then 2 small daughters.

The Mondial used lots of German parts-bin components; the brakes were ATE as used on a 3 Series, and it featured lots of Fiat and Lancia parts too. A very underrated car the Mondial; how often does one see a mid-engined, 2-plus-2?
The Dino was a fun car and was high days and holidays only. I also had an S2000, what a fabulous car that was and was the 4 wheel equivalent of a 2 stroke motorcycle. You hit that band and it turned into a hooligan. I wish still had the Honda
 
The Dino was a fun car and was high days and holidays only. I also had an S2000, what a fabulous car that was and was the 4 wheel equivalent of a 2 stroke motorcycle. You hit that band and it turned into a hooligan. I wish still had the Honda

I‘ve owned two from new; one was my company car - an Indy Yellow Pearl - in which I did 60k fault-free miles in 2 years. My last one was New Imola Orange Pearl - with black Rays RE30 and a few Mugen bits.

My favourite memory in the NIOP was on an autostrada, just outside Modena. Two Ferrari FF, with factory plastic cladding, pulled along side, sounded their horns, and gave us the thumbs-up - they then dropped a couple of gears and disappeared.

I’ve regretted selling my NIOP S2000 on many occasions.

And I used to run an RGV250, so I can relate to the ‘Stroker’ comparison!
 
This post has made me think about my car history 1982 - to date

Mini 850
Mk3 Cortina XL 1600
Mk 4 Cortina S 2000
Fiesta XR2 Mk 1
MG Midget1979 1.6
Fiesta XR2 Mk 2
Fiat Panda 1000S (don’t ask)
Saab 93 (wtf)
Ford Fiesta 1.1l ( Saab ate all my money)
Renault 21 Estate (arrival of kids)
Citron AX (our 1st 2nd car)
Citron Xantia VSX 1.9tdi (co car)
Alfa 155 2.5 V6 (co car)
Ford Mondeo Estate 2.0lt Ghia (co car)
Overseas for three years (Toyota land cruisers)
206GTI (co car)
Jeep Cherokee 4.0ltr Petrol (14 to the gallon)
Audi A4 avant 1.9 tdi
Honda CRV
Honda S2000
Mercedes E220 estate
Mercedes SLK350
Range Rover Sport 2.7 Diesel
Porsche 997 2 S
Range Rover Sport 3.0 Diesel
Porsche Cayenne 3.0 Diesel
Landrover Defender XS (still have it)
Porsche 991 4 S (still have it)
Ford Fiesta ST220 (a brief love affair, and reminded me of the XR2)
Porches Cayenne 4.2 Diesel (still have it)
BMW 440i (still have it)
And of course a California

Sorry missed the GT4.....

now to add up all that depreciation
 
I‘ve owned two from new; one was my company car - an Indy Yellow Pearl - in which I did 60k fault-free miles in 2 years. My last one was New Imola Orange Pearl - with black Rays RE30 and a few Mugen bits.

My favourite memory in the NIOP was on an autostrada, just outside Modena. Two Ferrari FF, with factory plastic cladding, pulled along side, sounded their horns, and gave us the thumbs-up - they then dropped a couple of gears and disappeared.

I’ve regretted selling my NIOP S2000 on many occasions.

And I used to run an RGV250, so I can relate to the ‘Stroker’ comparison!
Now I worked briefly on the FF aerodynamics.
When I resigned from Ferrari F1 they me sent to the road car dept. We did tons of wing variations for it then the stylists binned the lot. After that we did the Italian Olympic Bobsleigh, which was fun.
 
This post has made me think about my car history 1982 - to date

*Long list of interesting cars*

And of course a California

Thats an impressive list!

Here’s my more modest automotive history, from 1980:
Fiat 127 903cc LHD
Fiat 126
Fiat 132
Vauxhall Victor Transcontinental
Ex Paris-Dakar rally Citroen GS - bonkers!
Fiat 127 Sport
Fiat Panda 45
BMW 318i
Audi 100 CD
Ford Sierra Ghia
Ford Escort XR3i #1
Ford Escort XR3i #2
Toyota Celica
Ford Escort XR3i #3
VW Golf TD
VW Golf GTi
VW Golf GTi 16v
BMW 320i convertible
VW Golf Gti
Ford Fiesta XR2
Honda Accord Aerodeck
Bertone X1/9 1500
Fiat 127 Palio
VW Polo Coupe
Fiat 127 Sport
Fiat 126 Bis
Fiat Panda 45S
Isuzu Trooper 2.6 petrol (16 mpg)
’70 Ford Mustang Mach 1
Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Golf TD Unwelt
Audi Convertible
Mercedes Benz A170 Avant Garde
Chevrolet G20
Ford Bronco - full size
’71 Ford Mustang Grande
Alfa Romeo 164 Twin Spark
Beetle 2.0 LHD
Mercedes Benz A170 Elegance
Honda S2000 #1
Jeep CJ7 - I converted this from a 2.5 litre manual to 327 small-block with TH350
Fiat Multipla
BMW X3
Mercedes Benz 190e
Mini Cooper
MCC Smart Passion
Toyota Prius #1
Mini Cooper Clubman with EVERY option!
Toyota Prius #2
Fiat X1/9 Lido
Fiat X1/9 1500
1972 Lincoln Continental MKIV
Ferrari Mondial QV
Honda S2000 #2
Mitsubishi i-Car
Subaru Legacy Diesel
Gen 1 Honda Insight #1
Gen 1 Honda Insight #2
Honda Civic IMA
Seat Citigo
Audi A8 D2 4.2 - an understated ‘getaway car’, and my favourite, after S2000 #2
Mazda RX8 R3 - great car, never better than 22mpg, regardless of how driven
Chevrolet Astro
Toyota MR2 convertible
Toyota Camry CDX - a ‘Bangernomics’ exercise.
Golf Convertible TDi SE

Current vehicles:
Toyota iQ 1.0
Toyota iQ 1.33
Honda Dax ST50

It’s my wife, who has a California on order. A V12 Toyota Century is my current object of desire...
 
I grew up in the USA, Canada and Mexico, where even kiddies’ scooters had 5-7 liter V8s. Losers drove 6 cylinder Valients and Ramblers which emitted an exhaust note like the gasses your great aunt would let fly when she had eaten too much boiled cauliflower. Only communists who drove VW Beetles talked about gas mileage, and only hippie communist surfers (yes, me too) drove VW T1s. Then my uncle bought a second hand, hand built 300SL Gullwing prototype, and the heavens were revealed. I’ve owned a stream of entertaining wheels ever since, from a Mustang 5.0 liter Cobra to BMWs from late 60’s 1600s and 1800’s to 323’s from the 80’s to the first 318is from the 90’s, plus everything else from an RX2 to a ‘66 Impala convertible, but nothing can compare to the fun of bombing around in my TR6, which I restored from a wreck to drive to work up the incomparable California Highway 1 to my first symphony job in Santa Rosa, and later used for years to commute between my jobs at the Mexico City National Opera and the Guadalajara Symphony ( always top down and almost certainly responsible for the couple of melanomas I had removed from my face). My Cali is my only car, only takes me to mountain adventures, I move in the city only by bike, but IF I had some spare unused cash lying around, it would go for a meticulously restored TR6 in British Racing Green with tan leather.

Or an XK120 in the same colors.
Or a 356SC cabriolet.
Or a DS cabriolet.
Or, well, you get the idea.
 

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