Discussion regarding T6 ONLY roof corrosion

[sbmcd]

Sorry to hear that. I think you are now the 4th T6 owner on this thread to have negative news. Will you be informing administration following their e mail?

Sorry my California is a T5.

 

[sbmcd]

Sorry to Disagree. I don't have the problem visible and I won't look until the end of the warranty. Why? Well once it is repaired you will only get 1 yrs warranty from the Body Shop. So if I claim late and they take their time doing the repair then It should be in reasonable condition just at the point I hit 100,000 miles and preparing for the next Campervan, being a T6/T7 or something else. So I see no rush.

My 3 year warranty expires in March 2017 so a good time to remove seal in my opinion.

 

[blondebier]

Sorry to Disagree. I don't have the problem visible and I won't look until the end of the warranty. Why? Well once it is repaired you will only get 1 yrs warranty from the Body Shop. So if I claim late and they take their time doing the repair then It should be in reasonable condition just at the point I hit 100,000 miles and preparing for the next Campervan, being a T6/T7 or something else. So I see no rush.

I agree with WelshGas here.

I can't see it's worth losing much sleep over if the corrosion isn't visible yet. I can't on mine and I'm not going to check (as it would probably wind me up). Life's too short.

I would only approach VW if it were visible and if leaving it was going to cause long term issues. As far as I can tell it's just a surface issue occurring under the seal. Annoying yes, but a big issue? No.

If bubbles were showing above the seal (as some people have experienced) then I would report this as it is unsightly and VW should fix it.

When I took delivery of my T6 the tail gate bracket bolts had rust on them where they had obviously been torqued up after painting. I reported it to VW and they slapped some paint from a touch up stick on it. (I rubbed this off with my finger and did it properly with I got home)

I haven't checked the time limit of the anti perforation warranty, but I can't see it's worth pursuing until the corrosion is visible, or until your warranty is due to run out.

I bought the factory extended warranty and probably won't look until at least year 4.

I agree that it is very frustrating that this issue hasn't been resolved though.

 

[JonnieBoy]

It would be interesting to know if they are leaving the factory with these blemishes. Perhaps someone with a new order can get there dealer to check the seals prior to handover. It could give someone one hell of a last minute bargaining chip.

 

[Billy]

If bubbles were showing above the seal (as some people have experienced) then I would report this as it is unsightly and VW should fix it.

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Ours had bubbles under the seal and then six month later they were above the seal, the corrosion works its way up slowly so I would advise people to check now or else you could be driving round with an unsightly roof for several years whilst you wait for the repair to be carried out.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Don't forget to report back as requested earlier on in this thread and by email.

http://r.sitemail.vwcaliforniaclub.com/erao6na6jc2rd.html

Edited to include link.

 

[dale]

Don't forget to report back as requested earlier on in this thread and by email.

http://r.sitemail.vwcaliforniaclub.com/erao6na6jc2rd.html

Edited to include link.

mines clean no bubbles or blisters under or outside rubber seal

 

[sbmcd]

I agree with WelshGas here.

I can't see it's worth losing much sleep over if the corrosion isn't visible yet. I can't on mine and I'm not going to check (as it would probably wind me up). Life's too short.

I would only approach VW if it were visible and if leaving it was going to cause long term issues. As far as I can tell it's just a surface issue occurring under the seal. Annoying yes, but a big issue? No.

If bubbles were showing above the seal (as some people have experienced) then I would report this as it is unsightly and VW should fix it.

When I took delivery of my T6 the tail gate bracket bolts had rust on them where they had obviously been torqued up after painting. I reported it to VW and they slapped some paint from a touch up stick on it. (I rubbed this off with my finger and did it properly with I got home)

I haven't checked the time limit of the anti perforation warranty, but I can't see it's worth pursuing until the corrosion is visible, or until your warranty is due to run out.

I bought the factory extended warranty and probably won't look until at least year 4.

I agree that it is very frustrating that this issue hasn't been resolved though.

Just spoke to VW re the paint warranty, they suggested verbally that this roof issue may not be covered by the 6 year perforation warranty.

 

[Jonathan Duke]

Copy & Paste from T6 California Brochure:

Warranties.

You can count on us long after you purchase your California, thanks to its comprehensive three-year, 100,000 mile warranty. While your California is under warranty, we’ll fix any defect
in manufacture or workmanship free of charge, even if you purchase and service the vehicle at different Van Centres.
Some exclusions apply and the vehicle must be cared for using the guidance in your owner’s manual. For more detail, please visit www.volkswagen-vans.co.uk/aftersales.

Extended warranty.

You can also extend your warranty beyond the three-year, 100,000 mile period, choosing either Comprehensive or Major Component cover, as a one-off or monthly payment.
For more detail of cover levels, along with terms and conditions, please visit volkswagencvwarranty.co.uk where you’ll also be able to obtain a quote and purchase an extended warranty.

Paint and body warranty.

Your California’s exterior paintwork is covered against manufacturing defects for a period of three years, while its body sections and panels are covered against rusting through from the inside for 12 years. Some exclusions apply and the vehicle must be cared for using the guidance in your owner’s manual.

 

[Jonathan Duke]

Copy & Paste from Aftersales Brochure:

Your vehicle makes a statement about your business. We offer full, 12-year protection against corrosion attacking the internal cavities.**

If this protection fails while your vehicle is under warranty, we’ll fix the problem free of charge, provided that:

• The defect is reported to your Van Centre as soon as it’s discovered and this is within the warranty period
  
  
• Any perforation has not been caused originally by damage, neglect, insufficient care or maintenance, or by external rusting
  
  Our experts will carry out all body repairs using approved parts and materials, giving you the peace of mind that your original level of anti-corrosion protection will be maintained.
  
  Paintwork protection
  
  Your warranty covers any manufacturing paintwork defect, starting from the date of registration for a period of three years. Paintwork defects can be fixed free of charge under the warranty provided that:
  • You report the defect to your Van Centre within your warranty period
    
    
  • You tell your Van Centre about the defect as soon as you detect it, to ensure there is no further deterioration
    
    
  • The defect was not caused by external influences such as accident damage, industrial fallout or pollution, or insufficient care or maintenance

**Amaroks built prior to June 2012 are covered for six years.

 

[Digger]

Dont know if this would provide some protection but on looking at various paint products one designed for lining pick up truck beds, Raptor U Pol boot liner, seems to be very tough and impenetrable. It can also be over painted. It was tested on Myth-busters and proved to be extremely tough.


For those out of warranty might be only solution.
Some may disdain but having used this paint product on pck up bed exposed to everything and on trailer covered by salt water maybe research as no one else seems to have better suggestion

 

[Grey one]

Ours had bubbles under the seal and then six month later they were above the seal, the corrosion works its way up slowly so I would advise people to check now or else you could be driving round with an unsightly roof for several years whilst you wait for the repair to be carried out.

T5 or T6?

 

[Jabberwocky]

mines clean no bubbles or blisters under or outside rubber seal

Great news: Yr Vehicle details please?
2015 T6 Ocean 204
Date Purchased: ??
Date Manufactured: ??
Miles: ??

Thx JW

 

[Digger]

T6 Ocean manufactured late June 2016 Roof no bubbles or any other failure.

 

[dale]

Great news: Yr Vehicle details please?
2015 T6 Ocean 204
Date Purchased: ??
Date Manufactured: ??
Miles: ??

Thx JW

Hi JW 2016 T6 Ocean purchased new Jan 2016 15.000 miles I have another new one on order

 

[Jabberwocky]

Hi JW 2016 T6 Ocean purchased new Jan 2016 15.000 miles I have another new one on order

Thanks, I am making a data base of info to look at this problem.

 

[sbmcd]

Copy & Paste from Aftersales Brochure:

Your vehicle makes a statement about your business. We offer full, 12-year protection against corrosion attacking the internal cavities.**

If this protection fails while your vehicle is under warranty, we’ll fix the problem free of charge, provided that:

• The defect is reported to your Van Centre as soon as it’s discovered and this is within the warranty period
  
  
• Any perforation has not been caused originally by damage, neglect, insufficient care or maintenance, or by external rusting
  
  Our experts will carry out all body repairs using approved parts and materials, giving you the peace of mind that your original level of anti-corrosion protection will be maintained.
  
  Paintwork protection
  
  Your warranty covers any manufacturing paintwork defect, starting from the date of registration for a period of three years. Paintwork defects can be fixed free of charge under the warranty provided that:
  • You report the defect to your Van Centre within your warranty period
    
    
  • You tell your Van Centre about the defect as soon as you detect it, to ensure there is no further deterioration
    
    
  • The defect was not caused by external influences such as accident damage, industrial fallout or pollution, or insufficient care or maintenance

**Amaroks built prior to June 2012 are covered for six years.

Thanks for that, 3 years only.

 

[2into1]

Thanks for that, 3 years only.

For completeness, there was a pledge, lost somewhere in the T5 roof thread, that VW would repairs roofs reported to them within 6 years from mew. How that applies to T6s and if it still applies to T5s, is anyone's guess!

 

[Amarillo]

Sorry to Disagree. I don't have the problem visible and I won't look until the end of the warranty. Why? Well once it is repaired you will only get 1 yrs warranty from the Body Shop. So if I claim late and they take their time doing the repair then It should be in reasonable condition just at the point I hit 100,000 miles and preparing for the next Campervan, being a T6/T7 or something else. So I see no rush.

I think that is the right way to approach the issue.

I'm hoping that our Beach will last the family ~8 years. Check the roof toward the end of the warranty period, wait another ~2 years for a repair, then trade in the Beach ~3 years later. The issue has been managed.

 

[blakeley]

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[sbmcd]

For completeness, there was a pledge, lost somewhere in the T5 roof thread, that VW would repairs roofs reported to them within 6 years from mew. How that applies to T6s and if it still applies to T5s, is anyone's guess!

I have written to VW for clarification on the 3 / 6 year warranty question.

 

[T6Beach]

but.

 

[Grey one]

Thanks for your very interesting explanation. I too had heard that a zinc coating was being used to try to cure this issue. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks, I am making a data base of info to look at this problem.

Hi,

Likewise! My summary is that as of today, 11th Jan we have 2 x T6 with suspected corrosion ie t6Beach on post 102 and obviously Snowy. Interestingly both Beaches.

We also have 2 owners who have reported inspections and nothing found, interestingly both Oceans. Posts 182, 190, 189.

Would you agree?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Hi,

Likewise! My summary is that as of today, 11th Jan we have 2 x T6 with suspected corrosion ie t6Beach on post 102 and obviously Snowy. Interestingly both Beaches.

We also have 2 owners who have reported inspections and nothing found, interestingly both Oceans. Posts 182, 190, 189.

Would you agree?

Yes! Maybe we should agree format/data. I have started to complete the attached if possible.

T6 Issues as at 11-Jan-16


I would be happy to maintain.

 

[Grey one]

Yes! Maybe we should agree format/data. I have started to complete the attached if possible.

T6 Issues as at 11-Jan-16
View attachment 18438

I would be happy to maintain.

PM sent for your views.