Is a Beach a Campervan (Eurotunnel)

[WelshGas]

Tesco Vouchers used, but, having given the VRM, the phone conversation on the Beach campervan vs. car didn't go well - supervisor referred to, who stated that, with the DVLA body type the sleeping facilities alone qualify it for the higher price bracket.
Never mind; money saved overall, thanks to the Clubcard tip - Ta.
Now just need to plan the campsites and route...

Well you can't really complain. It's either one or the other.

 

[Stoneybroke]

Well you can't really complain. It's either one or the other.

Yea, but always worth a try!
If you don't ask you don't get
From my Eurotunnel conversation, they have a bit of a nightmare with all the flavours of VW Transporters and the variety of conversions, etc.

If only insurance was as easy - some insurers seem to say it isn't a campervan, despite the DVLA body-type!

 

[2haw]

Yea, but always worth a try!
If you don't ask you don't get
From my Eurotunnel conversation, they have a bit of a nightmare with all the flavours of VW Transporters and the variety of conversions, etc.

If only insurance was as easy - some insurers seem to say it isn't a campervan, despite the DVLA body-type!

I had the same conversation last year but then booked online without giving my registration.

It worked fine and is worth giving it a go.. it's not like it's a full on motorhome It's only a van

 

[WelshGas]

I had the same conversation last year but then booked online without giving my registration.

It worked fine and is worth giving it a go.. it's not like it's a full on motorhome It's only a van

Sacre Bleu!

 

[soulstyledevon]

I had the same conversation last year but then booked online without giving my registration.

It worked fine and is worth giving it a go.. it's not like it's a full on motorhome It's only a van

LOL
Ive used a eurotunnel a lot now and always pass as a car

 

[Amarillo]

Tesco Vouchers used, but, having given the VRM, the phone conversation on the Beach campervan vs. car didn't go well - supervisor referred to, who stated that, with the DVLA body type the sleeping facilities alone qualify it for the higher price bracket.

It would be unusual to travel through the tunnel with sleeping facilities: a popped down pop up roof and a bench seat are not sleeping facilities and more than a coffin kit on a roof rack could be considered a sleeping facility.

 

[WelshGas]

It would be unusual to travel through the tunnel with sleeping facilities: a popped down pop up roof and a bench seat are not sleeping facilities and more than a coffin kit on a roof rack could be considered a sleeping facility.

I just don't get it. When it costs the Beach is a Large Car, but if it saves on Insurance then it's a Campervan.

I think it should be in a new class - Utility Vehicle.
Capable of Everything Master of None.

 

[bvddobb]

I just don't get it. When it costs the Beach is a Large Car, but if it saves on Insurance then it's a Campervan.

Right... So, what is it you don't get?



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[2haw]

I just don't get it. When it costs the Beach is a Large Car, but if it saves on Insurance then it's a Campervan.

I think it should be in a new class - Utility Vehicle.
Capable of Everything Master of None.

That's why the Beach really is so so good.

Capable of everything.

 

[WelshGas]

That's why the Beach really is so so good.

Capable of everything.

Forgot the last bit.

 

[WelshGas]

Right... So, what is it you don't get?



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I think my post is quit self explanatory. Call it what you like but at least be honest.

 

[2haw]

Forgot the last bit.

Master of none..

Unlike the Ocean / SE.. that is the master of everything..

Is that better?

 

[WelshGas]

Master of none..

Unlike the Ocean / SE.. that is the master of everything..

Is that better?

No. The Ocean/SE is an excellent Campervan but a poor utility vehicle with regards to its use as a MPV or load carrier . It doesn't profess to be anything else.

 

[Amarillo]

I just don't get it. When it costs the Beach is a Large Car, but if it saves on Insurance then it's a Campervan.

It all comes down to the definitions of a campervan, helpfully, Eurotunnel are very clear:

Campervan/motorhome
Any vehicle which includes living accommodation (including (without limitation) seats, table, sleeping, cooking and storage facilities).​

The word "and" is important - a campervan must have all those features: a Beach is missing the cooking and storage facilities. Packing a gas stove is not a cooking facility, having storage space under the multiflex or seats is not a storage facility, otherwise virtually every family heading off on a camping trip fits that part of their definition. (Contrary to my earlier post, the upstairs bed does meet their criteria of being a sleeping facility, packing a tent wouldn't).

Whether or not a Beach is a campervan for insurance purposes will be governed by the way the insurance companies choose to define a campervan.

 

[WelshGas]

It all comes down to the definitions of a campervan, helpfully, Eurotunnel are very clear:

Campervan/motorhome
Any vehicle which includes living accommodation (including (without limitation) seats, table, sleeping, cooking and storage facilities).​

The word "and" is important - a campervan must have all those features: a Beach is missing the cooking and storage facilities. Packing a gas stove is not a cooking facility, having storage space under the multiflex or seats is not a storage facility, otherwise virtually every family heading off on a camping trip fits that part of their definition. (Contrary to my earlier post, the upstairs bed does meet their criteria of being a sleeping facility, packing a tent wouldn't).

Whether or not a Beach is a campervan for insurance purposes will be governed by the way the insurance companies choose to define a campervan.

Sorry. DVLA define what Body Type " Motor Caravan " is and they have, for some inexplicable and contrary to their own definition , defined the Beach as Body Type " Motor Caravan ". That's what is on the V5c.
So you can argue all you like but the DVLA classification stands, so use it correctly.

 

[WelshGas]

When you book on Eurotunnel using your Registration Number you get the correct DVLA Classification as per your V5c document.

 

[Amarillo]

When you book on Eurotunnel using your Registration Number you get the correct DVLA Classification as per your V5c document.

All of that is irrelevant. Eurotunnel have decided to disregard DVLA's classification by producing their own clear and unambiguous definition of a campervan, and irrespective of what their computer might say, an unadapted Beach does not fit that definition.

Eurotunnel could have chosen to leave the term "campervan" undefined, in which case the DVLA's classification of a "motor caravan" might stand, but instead they chose to create their own definition. Eurotunnel should honour their definition or amend it.

 

[WelshGas]

All of that is irrelevant. Eurotunnel have decided to disregard DVLA's classification by producing their own clear and unambiguous definition of a campervan, and irrespective of what their computer might say, an unadapted Beach does not fit that definition.

Eurotunnel could have chosen to leave the term "campervan" undefined, in which case the DVLA's classification of a "motor caravan" might stand, but instead they chose to create their own definition. Eurotunnel should honour their definition or amend it.

I'm sure you'll put them right, or not, as the case may be.

 

[larrylamb]

Tesco Vouchers used, but, having given the VRM, the phone conversation on the Beach campervan vs. car didn't go well - supervisor referred to, who stated that, with the DVLA body type the sleeping facilities alone qualify it for the higher price bracket.
Never mind; money saved overall, thanks to the Clubcard tip - Ta.
Now just need to plan the campsites and route...

It all comes down to the definitions of a campervan, helpfully, Eurotunnel are very clear:

Campervan/motorhome
Any vehicle which includes living accommodation (including (without limitation) seats, table, sleeping, cooking and storage facilities).​

The word "and" is important - a campervan must have all those features: a Beach is missing the cooking and storage facilities. Packing a gas stove is not a cooking facility, having storage space under the multiflex or seats is not a storage facility, otherwise virtually every family heading off on a camping trip fits that part of their definition. (Contrary to my earlier post, the upstairs bed does meet their criteria of being a sleeping facility, packing a tent wouldn't).

Whether or not a Beach is a campervan for insurance purposes will be governed by the way the insurance companies choose to define a campervan.

Judging by Stoneybrokes' experience Eurotunnel operators and computers do recognise theBeach as a camper, I thought this would please Beach owners.

 

[Loz]

It is interesting how companies make their judgements; Admiral said they don't insure anything with running water...

 

[2haw]

I really couldn't care what my Beach is classified as and I'm not sure why I would be pleased that its classsed as camper?

It's a unusual van when it comes to insure, some won't insure it because it's classed as a camper and some specialist camper van insurers won't insure it because it doesn't have a kitchen!!

When it comes to the Eurotunnel, I'm not sure why I should pay anymore than somebody with a Volvo XC90, a Disco or Range Rover, my Beach is about the same size. If it was longer, had a kitchen and toilet installed as was a full-on camper van, I could understand it.

I love my Beach, and I love the California Ocean / SE as well. As I have 3 kids, my Beach suits my needs very well but I certainly don't think it's better or worse than the Ocean!!!

 

[larrylamb]

When it comes to the Eurotunnel, I'm not sure why I should pay anymore than somebody with a Volvo XC90, a Disco or Range Rover,

Absolutely agree with that, price should be based solely on size of vehicle.

 

[bvddobb]

I think my post is quit self explanatory. Call it what you like but at least be honest.

That was my point: I didn't think you didn't get it, I thought you got it absolutely right!