Increased Oil Consumption Problem (2010 T5 Cali 180 bhp)

[AlanC]

In my experience, the high oil consumption did kick in quite suddenly while we were on holiday.

I am puzzled by the label as it doesn't have the same part number as mine (see my post #417) and has no suffix after it. The date is 2019 which would indicate it is the updated version. VW may well have changed the design by now though.

It would be worth having a conversation about that with a service manager or parts mamager at your nearest VW Commercial Vehicle dealer.

Alan

 

[KGCali]

Yes but if you want to try and claim from VW then may be best for them to do the compression and oil usage tests but very rare for them to offer any compensation. The Millers oil analysis is just a kit, you take a sample of oil and send it to them and they test it and produce a report, other companies can also do this.

Oil Sample Analysis

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[KGCali]

In my experience, the high oil consumption did kick in quite suddenly while we were on holiday.

I am puzzled by the label as it doesn't have the same part number as mine (see my post #417) and has no suffix after it. The date is 2019 which would indicate it is the updated version. VW may well have changed the design by now though.

It would be worth having a conversation about that with a service manager or parts mamager at your nearest VW Commercial Vehicle dealer.

Alan

I think the EGR is a Pierburg replacement (they make them for VW) cheaper than buying from VW.

VW Transporter T5.1 2.0 TDI Bi-Turbo CFCA - Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve (EGR) and Cooler - 03L 115 512 D / 03L115512D

BRAND NEW OEM EGR Valve & Cooler

www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk

 

[787driver]

Great thanks. Due to to the EGR being replaced I would assume the consumption would be turbo related?

 

[787driver]

Looking again at the sticker on the plate it looks as though it has been covered with a further sticker at the top

 

[KGCali]

Great thanks. Due to to the EGR being replaced I would assume the consumption would be turbo related?

Not necessarily, the old EGR could have damaged the engine

 

[KGCali]

Looking again at the sticker on the plate it looks as though it has been covered with a further sticker at the top

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If you carefully peel that back you may find the VW part no., if it's a 2019 then it'll be the latest version D but you won't know if the old EGR caused any damage.

 

[Ch1pbutty]

Yes but if you want to try and claim from VW then may be best for them to do the compression and oil usage tests but very rare for them to offer any compensation. The Millers oil analysis is just a kit, you take a sample of oil and send it to them and they test it and produce a report, other companies can also do this.

Oil Sample Analysis

Reduce the risk of unscheduled downtime and costly breakdowns for your vehicles or machinery using Millers Oils Oil Sample Analysis.

www.millersoils.co.uk

We looked at a 2012 Caravelle just before buying our Beach. The owner had had a new replacement engine + associated parts fitted by VW. 50% of the cost had been covered by VW Goodwill...but it did take him a while to get agreement. The van had a full VWSH which would have helped.

 

[787driver]

Ok. Good news. Maybe….. I took the sticker off and it’s a D type

 

[787driver]

Still can’t fathom why it’s losing so much oil though !

 

[andyinluton]

Are you 100% sure its using it rather than it just leaking onto the engine under tray?
There is room for a fair bit on there before it starts dripping off.

 

[787driver]

I’ve used 4 litres over the last few months and no sign of a leak on my driveway. I’ll try and look underneath to see what I can find !!

 

[andyinluton]

Mine came back from a service with a leaking filter - it had lost about 6 litres before there was any sign of a drip & it was the low oil warning light that flashed on that alerted me.

 

[787driver]

The tray looks dry to me. I’ll keep monitoring it for oil consumption over the next month. Strange how it happened so quickly even though the EGR has been replaced with the newest version

 

[787driver]

Having just spoken to an independent VW specialist it appears the damage may have been done before the new EGR was fitted. All leads to needing a new engine.. Gutted

 

[787driver]

I suppose the next question is “how much for a new engine?”

 

[Ch1pbutty]

Having just spoken to an independent VW specialist it appears the damage may have been done before the new EGR was fitted. All leads to needing a new engine.. Gutted

Go through the service history, call the old garages & ask them if they can remember having the van in previously to look at the fault. If they confirm this is the case then you can take it up with the Seller.

In the meantime would suggest checking current value on WBAC just in case if you need to offload it, depending on cost of new engine versus what you paid for the van.

 

[787driver]

Another question… now the new EGR has been fitted will the problem get any worse? If not, would topping the oil up regularly suffice?

 

[WelshGas]

Another question… now the new EGR has been fitted will the problem get any worse? If not, would topping the oil up regularly suffice?

It will get worse.

This might be of interest to you
The VW TPI relating to problem.

 

[pjm-84]

I feel that the damage is already done to the bores.

 

[WelshGas]

 

[787driver]

But will the damage to the bores get any worse?

 

[pjm-84]

Here a response from Millers that I received today for mine. It may be beneficial for some background.

Hi Paul

Thanks for that information as I was a little confused too!

Your previous report showed an aluminium level of 70 ppm after 5337 miles, it is reasonable to assume that the contaminants build linearly with mileage, so with your latest sample, I would have expected around 160 ppm. (70/5337 x 12100) So the 57 ppm was confusing as it is lower than expected, these issues never get better on their own, the EGR blanking explains things.

I have attached the fail criteria for oil, you will see that we condemn oil for aluminium at 30 ppm. At the rate your van was accumulating aluminium in the oil, it would have been in the region of 40 ppm when you had the EGR blanked. You should see much lower results going forward. This suggests that over the 9000 miles since the EGR blanking, you have accumulated 17 ppm aluminium in oil, a much more normal amount.

I hope this has resolved your confusion.

 

[787driver]

Thanks. So maybe mine will stabilise!!

 

[pjm-84]

The problem is the D cooler is still not in clear