Travelling with dog

[mogfor]

Or one to the seat belt on the back seat

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Thanks, are they the D rings you can buy and fit to the rear seat rails? We’ve also never had to use harnesses for them (as they were secure in the boot) any recommendations on brands worth considering? - or ones to avoid!

 

[Docsu]

Ozzi travels in a foldable metal crate on the back shelf, but has found a unique sleeping space!

 

[CaliDave]

Thanks, are they the D rings you can buy and fit to the rear seat rails? We’ve also never had to use harnesses for them (as they were secure in the boot) any recommendations on brands worth considering? - or ones to avoid!

Yes the D rings available from the club shop , easy to fit . Our harnesses are made by Hunter and seem well made , strong and comfortable .

 

[BeagleMum]

As a soon to be new Cali owner, this is something that’s been giving me a few concerns. We have two very athletic Vizslas who if unrestrained in a car will make their way to the front passenger seat. We have a Landrover where we have a cage that keeps them in the boot space. The rear Cali parcel shelf didn’t look very big for two dogs so I’ve been looking for some way of restraining and keeping them safe in the rear footwell - I guess my main concern is how I prevent them getting between the two front seats while driving...

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Lovely dogs

 

[BeagleMum]

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[Wesel]

Why do you have a dog if it lives and sleeps outside?

We have a very large garden, and our border asks himself to go out.
Almost every day we take with her great walks in the surrounding countryside.
Dogs are not originally meant to live indoors, this is a human-made behavior modification.

 

[tim newton]

Lola's sleeping position, she goes there even when the bed is in position, its cozy but she seems to like it.

 

[BeagleMum]

We have a very large garden, and our border asks himself to go out.
Almost every day we take with her great walks in the surrounding countryside.
Dogs are not originally meant to live indoors, this is a human-made behavior modification.

Is this common practice with all people in Belgium that have dogs?

 

[BeagleMum]

Lola's sleeping position, she goes there even when the bed is in position, its cozy but she seems to like it.

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Ours sleep on the downstairs bed.
They travel wearing a harness attached to either the D ring on the floor or the seat belt depending on where they are lying. If they are on the floor which is rare they have a reasonably high sided basket as the smaller dog likes to feel secure.
We use ruffwear harnesses, we did buy the ezydog crash tested harness but unfortunately the sizing just didn’t work for our girls.

 

[Wesel]

Is this common practice with all people in Belgium that have dogs?

Yes, for those who live in the countryside and have large dogs, it is common. Also in many other European countries.
But others keep their dogs indoors most of the time.

 

[AlisonF]

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Is this common practice with all people in Belgium that have dogs?

Not at all. And please be aware there are folk in the UK (And elsewhere) who keep their dogs outdoors.

 

[Amarillo]

Is this common practice with all people in Belgium that have dogs?

Dogs sleeping outside is absolutely the norm throughout Southern Europe. So much so that Sicilians and Greeks alike think it odd that people would have anything bigger than a Chihuahua living indoors.

 

[BeagleMum]

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Not at all. And please be aware there are folk in the UK (And elsewhere) who keep their dogs outdoors.

I am aware I was specifically asking about Belgium

 

[AlisonF]

I am aware I was specifically asking about Belgium

I’ve been on a couple of visits and the dogs we met were all indoor dogs.

 

[mogfor]

Lovely dogs

Thanks, can’t wait to start roaming with them in the van!

 

[mogfor]

Yes the D rings available from the club shop , easy to fit . Our harnesses are made by Hunter and seem well made , strong and comfortable .

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Thanks very much, I’ll check them out

 

[Norfolk Jim]

Lola's sleeping position, she goes there even when the bed is in position, its cozy but she seems to like it.

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We haven't got a Cali yet but you've answered my question - where does a 32kg black lab sleep as my wife might not be able to get up top and in any case much quieter downstairs. In our T5 there is more room with bed out and it's hollow under the end but this picture makes sense as long as mine can't smell or see food!

 

[Velma's Dad]

Thanks, are they the D rings you can buy and fit to the rear seat rails? We’ve also never had to use harnesses for them (as they were secure in the boot) any recommendations on brands worth considering? - or ones to avoid!

That's easy - the ones to avoid are any that haven't actually been properly crash tested. That means most of them, no matter how nicely made they look. There was a pretty shocking series of tests done in the USA a few years ago that showed that practically all the harnesses failed catastrophically in a serious crash scenario and the dog then became a projectile.

Unfortunately there is no standard for 'crash testing' and some harnesses that claim to have been tested (weasel worded bo11ocks like "tested for tensile strength") turn out to fail in proper independent tests such as by the US Center for Pet Safety. The ones that do seem to come out well include Sleepypod, and EzyDog and Kurgo which are claimed to meet the same EU standards that would apply to a child harness (we use an EzyDog).

Non-crash tested harnesses are better than nothing of course, in that they will certainly keep the dog from straying around the van, and can be assumed to keep them on the seat in an emergency stop or mild shunt.

 

[Wesel]

I’ve been on a couple of visits and the dogs we met were all indoor dogs.

We also visited Belgium a few times. And we saw a lot of outdoor dogs in the countryside.
In fact, we are living in Belgium ...

 

[Norfolk Jim]

That's easy - the ones to avoid are any that haven't actually been properly crash tested. That means most of them, no matter how nicely made they look. There was a pretty shocking series of tests done in the USA a few years ago that showed that practically all the harnesses failed catastrophically in a serious crash scenario and the dog then became a projectile.

Unfortunately there is no standard for 'crash testing' and some harnesses that claim to have been tested (weasel worded bo11ocks like "tested for tensile strength") turn out to fail in proper independent tests such as by the US Center for Pet Safety. The ones that do seem to come out well include Sleepypod, and EzyDog and Kurgo which are claimed to meet the same EU standards that would apply to a child harness (we use an EzyDog).

Non-crash tested harnesses are better than nothing of course, in that they will certainly keep the dog from straying around the van, and can be assumed to keep them on the seat in an emergency stop or mild shunt.

We use this one which has been extensively tested - excellent quality https://www.mountaindog.uk/collecti...Hs5FznfVy8zb4O9rqEn-3m2pfejMXkOhoCsrIQAvD_BwE

 

[Velma's Dad]

We use this one which has been extensively tested - excellent quality https://www.mountaindog.uk/collecti...Hs5FznfVy8zb4O9rqEn-3m2pfejMXkOhoCsrIQAvD_BwE

Yes I should have mentioned Ruffwear. Their harnesses tend to get mentioned positively in reviews on safety.

 

[Norfolk Jim]

We only ever buy Ruffwear and have never had any issues - suppose even though expensive you do get what you pay for.

 

[mogfor]

That's easy - the ones to avoid are any that haven't actually been properly crash tested. That means most of them, no matter how nicely made they look. There was a pretty shocking series of tests done in the USA a few years ago that showed that practically all the harnesses failed catastrophically in a serious crash scenario and the dog then became a projectile.

Unfortunately there is no standard for 'crash testing' and some harnesses that claim to have been tested (weasel worded bo11ocks like "tested for tensile strength") turn out to fail in proper independent tests such as by the US Center for Pet Safety. The ones that do seem to come out well include Sleepypod, and EzyDog and Kurgo which are claimed to meet the same EU standards that would apply to a child harness (we use an EzyDog).

Non-crash tested harnesses are better than nothing of course, in that they will certainly keep the dog from straying around the van, and can be assumed to keep them on the seat in an emergency stop or mild shunt.

That’s really great guidance, thank you

 

[tim newton]

We haven't got a Cali yet but you've answered my question - where does a 32kg black lab sleep as my wife might not be able to get up top and in any case much quieter downstairs. In our T5 there is more room with bed out and it's hollow under the end but this picture makes sense as long as mine can't smell or see food!

Our lab is a bit smaller than that, shes only 6 months at the moment but our previous lab was 20+ kgs and had no issue sleeping at the base of the bed or in between the front seats, there's often 4 of us in the van + dog at the same time, cozy ;-)

 

[Norfolk Jim]

Our lab is a bit smaller than that, shes only 6 months at the moment but our previous lab was 20+ kgs and had no issue sleeping at the base of the bed or in between the front seats, there's often 4 of us in the van + dog at the same time, cozy ;-)

Mines quite a long legged Drakeshead lab but does manage to curl up as can be seen here in our T5 where there is a bit more room than a Cali.